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From: john@frog.UUCP (John Woods)
Newsgroups: news.misc
Subject: Re: Freedom of hate
Message-ID: <1277@frog.UUCP>
Date: 18 Apr 89 02:52:00 GMT
References: <14130@gryphon.COM> <8132@chinet.chi.il.us> <1216@frog.UUCP> <8200@chinet.chi.il.us>
Followup-To: alt.flame
Organization: Misanthropes-R-Us
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In article <8200@chinet.chi.il.us>, patrick@chinet.chi.il.us (Patrick A. Townson) writes:
> In article <1216@frog.UUCP> john@frog.UUCP (John Woods) writes:
> >Oh, you mean Mr. Verity had a group of campus policemen blackjack this fool
> >down at Campus Police headquarters in a windowless room?  Or did Mr. Verity
> >simply have the Penn State army shoot him?  Perhaps he let him off easy, and
> >just locked the toad in his dorm room and announced that anyone talking with
> >him would be arrested? 
> >--> GET A CLUE: <--  Governments have powers to
> >prevent any discussion of ideas, any time, anywhere.
> Not the United States government,

A goof on my part:  as I made clear further down, I intended to say that
governments have the physical power to do that, through the means specified
in my first paragraph.  The US Government does not (in theory) give itself
the authority to do that.  Penn State University is NOT simply an arm of
the government, and is not obligated to give out computer accounts for any
purpose other than educating computer students.  They certainly did not
act in any way comparable to the South African government, as Patrick Townson
asserted they did.  Come back and complain when Pennsylvania refuses to
issue him a driver's license because of his USENET articles.

And as far as the difference between Penn State's computers and my own --
James Whitehead DID use my computer, and most particularly my modem, thanks
to the nature of USENET, and he made it quite clear that he knew that his
articles were propagated to "thousands of sites" and that he fully intended
to jam thousands of modems and disk drives with endless re-dissections of
his crap.  That was the point of my Uzi analogy, to demonstrate the absurdity
of denying causality.
-- 
John Woods, Charles River Data Systems, Framingham MA, (508) 626-1101
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