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From: patrick@chinet.chi.il.us (Patrick A. Townson)
Newsgroups: news.misc
Subject: Re: Freedom of hate
Message-ID: <8257@chinet.chi.il.us>
Date: 21 Apr 89 03:34:05 GMT
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In article <555@cvman.UUCP> gdelong@cvman.UUCP (Gary Delong) writes:
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>"The Congress shall make no law ...."
>
>Doesn't say anything about any other government agency or individual.

The rules and regulations of government agencies are considered to be the
law. The establishment of the agency by Congress or the Executive is 
sufficient to put the 'force of law' behind the rules of the agency. Do
you honestly believe there is an actual law in the United States Code
somewhere validating every single rule of the Internal Revenue Service?
Do you believe you could avoid the regulations of the IRS by claiming
there is no actual law on the books?

>What do you think most "contempt of court" charges are all about? Someone
>said something the judge didn't like.
>If you really think we have "Free Speech" tell a judge in court, "I feel
>this court is a joke and the biggest laugh is behind the bench."  Even
>if it's true you feel that way, you'll get to see a jail cell.


This could be another example of the types of illegal speech I was 
requested to post yesterday. The right of the public and the government
to an unbiased forum, conducted with decorum for the purpose of hearing
and ajudicating grievances with each other is superior to the right of
'free speech' in that place and at that time. 

Neither does your right to free speech give you the authority to lie under
oath at any time. And just as you may not address an officer of the court
in a disrespectful manner, you may not address members of Congress in a
disprepectful manner while that body is in session. Disrepect not only
includes acts of commission (lies, laughter, mocking) but acts of omission
as well (failure to appear when requested). That is what Contempt of
Congress is all about, and that is a pretty heavy rap also.


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