Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!unmvax!indri!nic.MR.NET!thor.acc.stolaf.edu!nelsonaf From: nelsonaf@thor.acc.stolaf.edu (Andrew F. Nelson) Newsgroups: sci.physics,sci.electronics Subject: Re: noise cancellation Message-ID: <1928@thor.acc.stolaf.edu> Date: 27 Apr 89 03:26:38 GMT References: <723@wucs1.wustl.edu> <7260@fluke.COM> <453@corpane.UUCP> <739@wucs1.wustl.edu> <20031@srcsip.UUCP> <859@prlhp1.prl.philips.co.uk> <482@atlas.tegra.UUCP> <17419@cup.portal.com> Reply-To: nelsonaf@thor.stolaf.edu () Followup-To: sci.physics Distribution: na Organization: St. Olaf College, Northfield, MN Lines: 34 Xref: utzoo sci.physics:7541 sci.electronics:5996 In article <17419@cup.portal.com> ISW@cup.portal.com (Isaac S Wingfield) writes: >Well, there's been a lot of talk about automobile engine noise >cancellation, using some kind of "active muffler". > >The first thing that occurs to me (and I don't know, even >approximately) is HOW MUCH ACOUSTIC POWER ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? >Because it'll take pretty much exactly the same amount of "negative >power" to make it go away. > >I bet it's lots of watts, and if you think even *one* acoustic >watt isn,t that much, then you've never heard that much coming >from a Hi-Fi (especially at low frequency). > >Isaac isw@cup.portal.com This sounds vaguely like what in radio controlled aircraft is called a 'Tuned Pipe'. According to the catalogs I've seen (now around 8-10 years ago since I haven't been involved in RC since then), these things are actually mufflers which _increase_ the power output of your engine somehow. I don't have any idea how although I'd hazard a guess that it facilites the removal of the exhaust gases from the cylinder. I wonder if this is a similar thing to what you're talking about with an active car muffler? This 'Tuned Pipe' thing isn't electronic in nature though. As I look back though old articles in this thread I get the sense that most of the things that have been mentioned are active electronic speakers and such. -- Andy Nelson |Disclaimer: I didn't do it!! Did I do it?? nelsonaf@thor.acc.stolaf.edu |Well if I did it it was for a good cause. nelsonaf@stolaf.UUCP |Are there any good causes out there? I haven't |found one yet....Help!!!!