Path: utzoo!dptcdc!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!osu-cis!att!cbnews!macleod@drivax.UUCP From: macleod@drivax.UUCP (MacLeod) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: F111 ride: an E ticket? Bye bye lunch... Message-ID: <5678@cbnews.ATT.COM> Date: 17 Apr 89 02:55:13 GMT Sender: military@cbnews.ATT.COM Lines: 19 Approved: military@att.att.com From: macleod@drivax.UUCP (MacLeod) :My brother was a crew chief on F-111s at Mt Home and Tahkli (sp?) and the :biggest problem was pilots flying them into the ground. He lost three in :his enlistment. One in Vietnam was found impacted on a mountain ledge, said :it missed the top by about 100 feet. Two in Mt Home were lost on the range :but the pilots ejected, one capsules bladder never inflated and broke their :backs. All in all he liked it better than the F-4 for maintenance, said he :felt bad when the aircraft recovered and his didn't come back. My reference books tell me that the F111 has a special kind of NOE autopilot that chugs along near to the ground. It has two settings: normal and "barf bag". The BB setting hugs the ground even closer and subjects crews to 2-3G and equivalent negative G maneuvers. Given this kind of ride, it isn't surprising that some crash into obstacles. Michael Sloan MacLeod (amdahl!drivax!macleod)