Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!uunet!lll-winken!gryphon!denwa!bongo!julian From: julian@bongo.UUCP (julian macassey) Newsgroups: unix-pc.general Subject: fan mail Keywords: cooling, fan, power supply. Message-ID: <157@bongo.UUCP> Date: 7 Apr 89 05:38:10 GMT Organization: The Hole in the Wall Hollywood Ca U.S.A. Lines: 66 Here in Los Angeles we are currently going through a heat wave. It is in the hundreds during the day and plummets to the low seventies at night. My 3b1 lives with me in an ancient apartment with no air conditioning so we both swelter together. I do not have enough power available (25 Amps 110V total) to slap in a small air conditioner. The other evening I cam home and sat at the console, suddenly the cooling fan revs suddenly dropped. I thought the fan was about to stop and my heart damn nearly did. That is how I found out that the Unix-pc has a 2 speed fan. Regular noisy for regular cooling and super noisy for super cooling. This was a revelation. I mailed Jim Gottlieb (jim@denwa) about this and he told me that yes indeed, there was a two speed fan and it was controlled by a thermistor, possibly on the Power Supply board. Recently on this group there has been discussion about ripping out the installed DC fan and inserting an AC fan from Rat Shack. Obviously unless modifications were made, any change to an AC fan would loose the 2 speed feature. It could be done, I could do it with a bit of fiddling - schematics would help though. Obviously for a margin of safety, as a single speed fan, the AC fan at single speed would have to shift as much air as the DC fan at high speed. Unless your computer lives in a luxury airconditioned room. Beware of airconditioned offices, they often kill the air over those hot August weekends to save energy. So it would appear that some care should be taken over the cooling fan thing. This brings me to a concern that I have had since I first turned on my 3b1. I think it runs too warm. Whenever I put my hand behind the machine I feel warm air coming out of the fan vent, no matter what speed the fan is running at or whatever the room temperature. Yes my un-airconditioned dump also has no heat and it gets to the mid forties in the winter. I believe as far as electronic equipment is concerned, exhaust air should not be warmer to the touch than ambient and heatsinks should never get uncomfortably warm. The reason for my heresy is that heat kills electronic components - sooner or later. So if you hate fixing stuff, or just having it die, keep it cool. I am seriously considering throwing another fan (AC) in series with my installed DC fan, just to increase the airflow. If I can get an AC fan that really pushes wind, I will remove the DC fan and replace it with the super AC fan. This will also remove some of the load from the Power Supply which will further help with cooling - assuming the fan is powered by the Power Supply. As far as I know, there is no current source for replacement power supplies. This makes keeping the thing cool and alive for a long time all the more important. Also when power supplies die, they have a nasty habit of doing it in a vindictive way and taking expensive boards with them. Any thoughts and suggestions re cooling and power greatfully received. If you have messed with the fan, I certainly would like to hear of successes and failures, tips and traps. Yours -- Julian Macassey, n6are julian@bongo ucla-an!denwa!bongo!julian n6are@wb6ymh (Packet Radio) n6are.ampr.org [44.16.0.81] voice (213) 653-4495