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From: heiby@falkor.UUCP (Ron Heiby)
Newsgroups: comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d
Subject: Re: we need an unmoderated binaries group
Message-ID: <184@falkor.UUCP>
Date: 7 May 89 02:47:54 GMT
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Reply-To: heiby@chg.mcd.mot.com (Ron Heiby)
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Just another hired gun (n2hkd) (cb@cci632.UUCP) writes:
> I would recommend starting a mailing list first. For those of you
> who are daring and want to play, that would be just the thing.

Speaking as one of those who PAY, that would not be "just the thing".
I log sender and receiver of mail larger than a certain size that
does not originate or terminate on my system.  I have not had to
install software checks to stop abuses, as the one or two that have
happened have been dealt with through education.  This is your chance
at education.

This network is not free.  It costs money.  While it is true that I
personally pay nothing for it, the company I work for does.  I personally
have to be able to justify the phone bills and the disk space used for
Usenet.  I have been asked about it by my boss' boss on more than one
occasion.

About the only thing I can think of that might be worse than another
go at an unmoderated PC binaries group is a PC binaries mailing list.
I have no desire to pay for megabytes worth of emailed binaries passing
through my system.  At least with a newsgroup, I have a chance at getting
some benefit from it.  My system already passes between 20 and 35
Megabytes per day.  I already have most of a 150Meg disk drive devoted
to Usenet.  I'm responsible for getting some actual work done, too.

The current system works.  Maybe it doesn't work fast enough for a few
blow-hards.  I have no sympathy for them.  Anyone who is so desparate
to get the latest program should feel free to find a BBS or a system
like Compuserve.  Maybe when faced with actually having to pay real
money for long distance or connect time, these jerks will figure out
that they can afford to wait a couple of weeks.  (Get a life, guys!)

P.S.  I did not find the rogue control message un-moderating
comp.binaries.ibm.pc purportedly from "root@buster.UUCP (TSOS of buster)"
of "Buster Unix Stuttgart" to be at all amusing, either.  RWH.
-- 
Ron Heiby, heiby@chg.mcd.mot.com	Moderator: comp.newprod
"Life is indeed an inexplicable sequence of imponderable surprises."