Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!purdue!haven!decuac!hadron!cos!howard From: howard@cos.com (Howard C. Berkowitz) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Some alternatives to OSI Summary: malt != layer? Message-ID: <17344@cos.com> Date: 28 Apr 89 15:22:50 GMT References: <3489@robin.cs.nott.ac.uk> <12486384267.18.PADLIPSKY@A.ISI.EDU> Organization: Corporation for Open Systems, McLean, VA Lines: 40 Suddenly, I have insight... :-) In article <12486384267.18.PADLIPSKY@A.ISI.EDU>, PADLIPSKY@A.ISI.EDU (Michael Padlipsky) writes: > > And for your own interest and amusement, though I wouldn't think of > bothering the author with it, we might observe that there is a deep > sense in which the OSI protocols share in the advantage of not being > invented by ISO. (They were, of course, reinvented--and badly, as > witness the fact that the ARPA protocols do indeed offer some "session" > and a lot of "presentation" FUNCTIONALITY, they just don't overcomplicate > life by instantiating them in rigidly hierarchical layers. > Oh, by the bye, is the University of the Outer Hebrides convenient to > Islay? If so, I'd be glad to visit some time, since Islay is where > several important facilities in my real field of research interest are > (e.g., Lagavulin, Laphroaig, and Port Ellen Maltings), and the day and > a half I spent there in '86 wasn't at all an exhaustive research > expedition, merely a preliminary dig. Indeed, conformance testing is quite secondary to these fields; perhaps we can agree on Laphroaig as a common presentation syntax. I am continuing studies into the role of the MacAllen... Now, there may be a fundamental insight here. I see an equivalence relation here between scotch whiskies and network architecture... I assume you feel that a blended scotch overcomplicates whiskey by instantiating its components in arbitrarily hierarchical solutions, which are then mixed without proper definition of the service interface? Is it Session or Presentation you consider the equivalent of grain neutral spirits? -- howard@cos.com OR {uunet, decuac, sun!sundc, hadron, hqda-ai}!cos!howard (703) 883-2812 [W] (703) 998-5017 [H] DISCLAIMER: Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the Corporation for Open Systems, its members, or any standards body.