Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!indri!xanth!mcnc!ecsvax!ppgbms From: moe!jeremy@ppgbms (Jeremy Levine) Newsgroups: comp.society.women Subject: Women competing with men Message-ID: <6962@ecsvax.UUCP> Date: 8 May 89 19:02:24 GMT Sender: skyler@ecsvax.UUCP Lines: 46 Approved: skyler@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Moderator -- Trish Roberts) Comments-to: comp-women-request@cs.purdue.edu Submissions-to: comp-women@cs.purdue.edu >>Message-ID: <6938@ecsvax.UUCP> >>Date: 3 May 89 08:32:03 GMT >>Sender: skyler@ecsvax.UUCP >>In the 13th April 1989 edition of "Computing", there is an interview >>with Cally Ware, a product manager with the systems house Hoskyns. >>An excerpt:- >> >>"What advice would she give to young women determined to make the most >>of a career in ... computing? >>"'Enjoy being a woman and don't compete with men on their own terms.'" >>Would readers agree or disagree? I happen to be a male, but I love to read the news so I thought I might reply to this posting. I think it's trash, "... own terms .." what is this ?? I like to think that computer science is an open field. I feel that from the start CS had good ( yes, NOT great ) opportunities for women. How can we forget Ada Lovelace ( the first software engineer ), Grace Hopper and a slew of University Faculty members. The competition between people in the field of computing is totally ( at least should be ) intellectual. One of the most fantastically knowledgeable teachers I ever had was a women and a rather young women. As I understand it Sun Micro- systems is hiring more and more women. Which I think is a good move. while I was in school I was part of the student software support team for 2 vax 785's 2 vax 750's 1 sperry 7000/40 and about 50 sun workstations. All of these systems were under the control of one very intelligent female. I say compete, beat and take over the field for all I care .... I just want to work with the best .......... Jeremy Levine - Amarex Technology Inc.- UNIX UNIx UNix Unix unix..... {uunet, decvax, sunybcs}!ppgbms!jeremy@philabs.philips.com or sunybcs!levine levine@cs.buffalo.edu (not read that often)