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From: ccs013@castor.ucdavis.edu (Jason)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
Subject: Re: software engineers
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Date: 3 May 89 22:51:26 GMT
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In article <854@odyssey.ATT.COM> gls@odyssey.ATT.COM (g.l.sicherman) writes:
>Real programmers spend 90% of their time debugging.  Computer science
>curricula ignore debugging, perhaps because it can never be reduced
>to a theory. 
>2. The ability to "port" software.  This is an acid test for distinguishing
>   able programmers from mere C.S. grads.
>3. The ability to maintain somebody else's code.  Most C.S. students have
>   no experience in this.

and other atributes supposedly lacked by *>mere<* CS grads....



I do not mean to flame the writer of the inserted article, but.....

I do not know what school you went to for your degree (or the schools
of the people you hire) ....but it is
unfortunate that, at that school, the CS students were taught SO
poorly!  Where I attend here at the University of California,
Davis.... CS students FROM THE VERY START are taught the things that
YOU say CS people just can't hack (no pun intended).  I think that your
statements were very close minded...and arrogant.....
I apologize if I have  offended you...but I believe an apology to
those who ARE competent CS grads is due...

Jason   ccs013@castor.ucdavis.edu