Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!ucdavis!castor.ucdavis.edu!ccs013 From: ccs013@castor.ucdavis.edu (Jason) Newsgroups: comp.software-eng Subject: Re: I should go back to school? Message-ID: <4255@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> Date: 9 May 89 18:51:39 GMT References: <854@odyssey.ATT.COM> <1670001@hp-ptp.HP.COM> <8398@chinet.chi.il.us> <4236@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> <3315@ae.sei.cmu.edu> Sender: uucp@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu Reply-To: ccs013@castor.ucdavis.edu (Jason) Organization: University of California, Davis Lines: 70 In article <3315@ae.sei.cmu.edu> rsd@sei.cmu.edu (Richard S D'Ippolito) writes: >I don't normally comment on this subject unless the writer invites it by the >content of his message, but your suggestion that others might require more >schooling should be seen in the light of the basic spelling, compositional, >and grammatical errors (some of which were too hard to mark) that you >yourself have made in the preceeding paragraphs. How do you communicate the >results of your work? > 1) When I am upset at some one making remarks (as the ones that were made ORIGINALLY by that request for job qualities to look for) , you may not agree, but I really don't care about paying special attention to the fact that there is not a superb correctness to my spelling. Also, the situation is CS and E , not English... >If you really have something to say, please take reasonable care that your >message is not disregarded simply due to its ugly package. 2) If this is all you can say about my note ... about its "package" .... (grammer I suppose): why did you respond to this posting. Were you originally studying English or language in college? The important part is the idea's of the posting not its spelling. If you want to flame, flame that... Yes, Rich, I have had alot of experience with E's . However, I will admit to harshness; this is in light at the fact of 95% of the E's I know or knew are here at UCD. And, I will say that, especially in lower division, they have a great attitude about themselves. They frown on all other divisions of learning here. Money, is a big issue: "oh, my first job will start me with $40,000" . Well, that's really nice. It would've been nice if my first job was $40,000/yr. Everyone would like to be financially well off; but of all of the fields you can become apt in, in college, its seems to me (yes, becuase of personal preference) to be the biggest waste to think of a degree in science as big meal ticket. Let these (I will say for UCD now...) people go and study other things.... There is basically a lack of love for pure science....excuse me, but I think it sucks. also.... You ought to see some junior in E look at the upper division texts for physics. I've never seen eyes get so wide. They learn there physics 8 material (general physics whith calculus). They take a few upper-division (and lower-division) concentrated courses that are specific to there E concentration. And then then the general education requirements and eng. application classes. I really see no grounds for them to ridicule physics majors (or those that are out in "the real world". Lastly, I have NO meaning to ridicule engineers. As en (ex) "physics person" I hold them in as high regard as I do physicists. In a nutshell (crude but somewhat accurrate): then physicist creates and shapes and the engineer causes it to grow and applies it. Both have an extremely important part in our society as well as in the scientific world. I see no reason for ridicule and/or remarks about CS that were made by the original posting tha started all this. Does this answer any of your questions...... Rich. Oh and excuse my english. I only got a C+ in my English A class way back when. :) ___ ___ __ ___ )___ ______________________________ ( | '__| (__ / / / / | II Corinthians 10:17 | \ | (__)\ __) /__/ / / +****************************+ \_|Internet: jygabler@ucdavis |"Why me!?" , said Garion. | |BITNET: jygabler@ucdavis |"Do we have to go thru that | |UUCP: ucdavis!jygabler |again?", the dry voice said.|