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From: dillon@POSTGRES.BERKELEY.EDU (Matt Dillon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: Dnet2.0
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Date: 7 May 89 01:27:53 GMT
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:[Can be nasty telnetting out.]  Anyhow, I digress.  DNet will not run
:over telnet, probably because of this point of non-transparency.
:Unless Matt has specifically changed it for 2.0 [I haven't tried it
:yet] but I don't think so.  [Matt?]  The other major point of
:nontransparency in telnet is the escape character, usually ^].  (don't
:know the character code offhand.)
:
:On the other hand, the rlogin protocol IS transparent enough to run
:dnet over.  If you can use a straight TCP connection or an rlogin
:connection (which is fairly close) DNet should run fine over it.  With
:a telnet connection, you can't do much about it.

	DNet will not run under telnet for that and other reasons... like
^] causes an escape.  DNet *will* run under rlogin because rlogin recognizes
when a terminal is placed in RAW mode and turns off it's escapes.

:   Symptoms:
:     I can connect and login to the Sun normally through the Dnet startup
:   window, but when I try to start dnet, the Amiga side goes to a loop
:   where it alternately opens and closes Fterm and Dnet windows, but
:   nothing appears in them (except sometimes # or { characters)

	Sounds like carrier detect is not connected.  DNET V2 checks the CD
line to support modems set to auto-answer.  You can use the -h0 option on
the Amiga side to tell DNet to ignore the CD line.

:Matt, could you please consider an enhancement to optionally escape
:certain characters, etc.  It would let a LOT of people use DNet who
:currently can't because they don't have a direct dialup...

	The solution here is for somebody to write their own serial.device,
or perhaps commodore make it a standard feature of the serial device to
encode 8 bits down to alpha-numeric or something.  I dunno.  To tell you
the truth I have a very low tolerance for systems which do not provide a full
8 bit transparent comm.

					-Matt