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Subject: Re: Welcome to the New Wave
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Date: 28 Apr 89 22:28:42 GMT
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I had intended to keep completely out of this, but it's friday! :>

In article <827@ethz.UUCP> marti@ethz.UUCP (Robert Marti) writes:
>In article <3239@hplabsz.HPL.HP.COM>, taylor@limbo.intuitive.com (Dave Taylor)
>writes:
>
>> [ ... ]  you might want to ask David Norman, the
>> president of BusinessLand, why they didn't even consider a distribution
>> agreement for the 386i, and why they dropped Sun  [ ... ]
>With this statement you imply that failure for reaching an agreement
>between Sun and BusinessLand is all Sun's fault.  If you actually KNOW
>something you might want to tell us all.  If you don't then I'll
>have to consider this as a case of mud slinging.

I don't recall there ever having been an _announced_ relationship.
That which is unannounced is all speculation and rumor mongering (and
is a lot of fun).

>
>> [ ... ]  and why the newly released
>> Sun Open Look Desk Kit looks sooo much like Mac and Presentation
>> Manager software (not to mention HP's New Wave)).
>Well, Microsoft and HP were sued by Apple because of alleged copyright
>infringement concerning the Look and Feel of Windows 2.03 (aka
>Presentation Manager) and New Wave.  Sun's OPEN LOOK wasn't (so far :-).
>So what's your point?

Open Look was done as a joint project between Xerox, ATT and Sun.
Since Xerox was demonstrably the first to create (if a corporation
creates anything :>) and to distribute (albeit on a very limited
basis) this sort of technology, a sucessful suit would appear to be
unlikely. But, I am not a lawyer, nor do I play on on TV. :>

>CH-8092 Zurich, Switzerland       UUCP:       ...uunet!mcvax!ethz!marti

Voices of calm and logic often eminate from the Swiss.

Now, a quiet rational discussion of the actual merits of Aegis,
Pascal, and machines with multiple functional units would seem to be
in order.

Cheers all.
-- 
Keith H. Bierman      |*My thoughts are my own. Only my work belongs to Sun*
It's Not My Fault     |	Marketing Technical Specialist 
I Voted for Bill &    |   Languages and Performance Tools. 
Opus            (* strange as it may seem, I do more engineering now     *)