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From: sk2f+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU ("Seth D. Kadesh")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple
Subject: Re: Give 'em all a GS!
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Date: 6 May 89 17:25:03 GMT
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In article <1871@ccnysci.UUCP> ccnysci!jeffrey@nyu.edu ("Jeffrey L
Bromberger") writes:

] In article <IYKtGyy00WE1M17ksY@andrew.cmu.edu> sk2f+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU
("Seth D.
] Kadesh") writes:
] >
] >Why are there any
] >IIes still out there!!??!  If Apple had pushed harder for the IIe ->
GS
] >conversion kit, it might have sold more.  This isn't even considering
] >the IIs and II+s, or the IIcs.
] >
] >  -seth

] Seth, I strongly suggest that you take a good look around.  ]['s (in
] the form of + & e) have been in classrooms since I was in High School
] (1981).  IMHO, the schools (didn't I hear that they represented the
] largest ][ base?) won't ditch their machines and software just to make
] the GS people happy.  BTW, how many of these ][e's out there in
] schools were never 'enhanced'? 

       You missed my point (I wasn't very clear).  Everybody loses if
the Apple II line is dropped.  The II (+ e c) are not so dissimilar that
they can't be grouped together and considered "one" machine.  The
indtroduction of the GS (funny I should talk introduction - its been
here for at least 3 years now - right?) represents a major break from
the family.  But this break is only good if people support it.  And the
more people purchase the GS, the more it is supported.  If the GS is not
supported, its only going to look like a IIe with some fancy colors.
     As for the schools, they have almost nothing to lose by upgrading
their machines.  I certainly wouldn't ask them to do it to make the GS
people happy.  But the GS represents the future for the entire Apple II
line.  If it dies, they all do (I'm not talking about third parties and
user bases and stuff like that).  And with very few exceptions, most
software will run on the GS.  Typical school hardware (printers, etc.)
will also function well with the GS.  As for throwing away the machine
itself (the IIe or II+ in question) - you've got a nice, new GS to play
with.

btw, my high school enhanced all of their IIes.  they now have mostly
GS's.  too bad they don't know what to do with them (learning how to use
Appleworks is the standard course)

] Jeffrey L. Bromberger
] System Operator---City College of New York---Science Computing Facility
] Anywhere!{cmcl2,philabs,phri}!ccnysci!jeffrey	jeffrey@ccnysci.BITNET

 - seth kadesh
sk2f+@andrew.cmu.edu
tHe mAd ScienTisT, and other carnations.