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From: jeffa@hpmwtd.HP.COM (Jeff Aguilera)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Re: Trying to remove a file called "-ls"
Message-ID: <690003@hpmwjaa.HP.COM>
Date: 28 Apr 89 23:22:53 GMT
References: <570@sdrc.UUCP>
Organization: HP Microwave Tech. - Santa Rosa, Ca.
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>>  1. Amazing as it seems, rm actually adheres to the '--' standard so as
>>     mentioned so many times in the above responses,
>>  
>>      rm -- -ls

    <fu> bar $ strings `whence rm` | fgrep -c getopt
    2

So it works --- for the twenty-seventh time.  But how standard is getopt?  The 
double dash won't work with mv:

    <fu> bar $ strings `whence mv` | fgrep -c getopt
    0

>>  2. If ls -i gives
>>  
>>      12000 -ls   12332 .... etc
>>  
>>     then use
>>  
>>      find . -inum 12000 -exec rm {} \;

This works because find passes ./-ls to rm, so why not do that directly?

Giving a path works with mv too, as in

    <fu> bar $ mv ./-ls ./-rm

Ah, ha! We found the standard buried among the rubble.  If you want a nice
long list of programs that don't use that wonderful getopt standard, try

    #!/bin/sh
    : getopt : just say no
    for file in /bin/* /usr/bin/*
    do
        test -x $file -a `strings $file | fgrep -c getopt` -gt 0 || echo $file
    done

Here are some highlights of the 332 programs on my machine that do not use 
getopt:

    /bin/ar           /bin/echo         /bin/nm           /bin/wc
    /bin/cdb          /bin/ed           /bin/nohup        /bin/xd
    /bin/chgrp        /bin/find         /bin/od           /usr/bin/awk
    /bin/chmod        /bin/gprof        /bin/rmdir        /usr/bin/ex
    /bin/chown        /bin/head         /bin/sed          /usr/bin/man
    /bin/cp           /bin/ksh          /bin/sh           /usr/bin/tar
    /bin/cpio         /bin/ld           /bin/sleep        /usr/bin/vedit
    /bin/csh          /bin/mkdir        /bin/sort         /usr/bin/vi
    /bin/date         /bin/mt           /bin/su           /usr/bin/yacc
    /bin/diff         /bin/mv           /bin/sync         /usr/bin/zcat
    /bin/du           /bin/nice         /bin/tail

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