Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wasatch!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!munnari!vuwcomp!rata.vuw.ac.nz!alex From: alex@rata.vuw.ac.nz (Alex Heatley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Latest version of Kermit for the Macintosh Keywords: Kermit, Macintosh, Latest version Message-ID: <14754@comp.vuw.ac.nz> Date: 4 May 89 04:22:40 GMT References: <2563@cit5.cit.oz> <2291@molokai.sw.mcc.com> Sender: news@comp.vuw.ac.nz Reply-To: alex@rata.vuw.ac.nz (Alex Heatley) Organization: Computing Serv. Ctr, Victoria Uni., Wellington, New Zealand Lines: 69 In article <2291> werner@molokai.sw.mcc.com (Werner Uhrig) writes: >In article <2563@cit5.cit.oz>, prf@cit5.cit.oz (Paul Freeman) writes: >> I was wondering if someone could email me the latest version of Kermit for > > in December '88, we created a complete dump of the SIMTEL20 > Macintosh files (2 reels) and sent them to NZ with the request > that their contents be made available "down under" in general. > > I was hoping that this would mean that either one/several sites > would set up a mail-server, or that the tapes would be passed on > from site to site in NZ and OZ. > > if that didn't happen, I'd be greatly disappointed and would think > twice before organizing another (cost-free to the recipient) air-mail > care-package to the same people ... > > Come to think of it, can't say that I received a thank-you note > from anyone either .... that should teach me. > >PS: given that Kermit 0.9(40) has a creation date of July 88 on my disk, > I am rather certain that it was on those tapes ... no need to send it > across the Pacific again, one would think (which was the whole purpose > of the exercise, given the high cost of such transmissions) Greetings, I'm the ungrateful swine who got the tapes Werner had sent. For reasons that I've outlined to Werner in some e-mail I sent him I've been sitting on them due to a storage of disk space at my site. Quite frankly I hadn't though about the possiblity of shipping them from University and I'm not keen to do so, because the last time I did, none of the tapes ever came back. BUT, in the spirit of what Werner did for me. I'm prepared to offer two alternatives. I'll copy the SIMTEL20 tapes for anyone who's prepared to ship me two 2400 foot tapes provided that the following conditions are met: 1. Tapes that arrive without money to cover (or partially cover) shipping them back will be returned via the cheapest (and probably slowest) method I can find (this condition only really applies to OZ sites). In the case of tapes from OZ, this may mean a three month wait. The only reason I impose this restriction is that my department head will personally garrotte me if I commit this department to shipping tapes back to OZ via airfreight at $NZ 50+ a time! 2. One set of tapes per site. I don't want to be inundated with tapes. If people are interested email me for more details and we'll set something up. OR In this particular circumstance I'll haul the Kermit files off the tapes and ship them via either e-mail (less than 200K) or disk to Paul (> 200K) at my department's expense. Given that OZ hardly thinks it worth talking to NZ, I can't see a NZ based ftp site being particularly useful and as we pay for email TO and FROM OZ I'm not going to implement a mail request server either. Now if OZ would pay for their traffic from us, it might be another story... I should mention that I am very grateful to Werner for getting the tapes sent to us and I'm sorry that he's felt it was a waste of time. Alex Heatley Computing Services Centre Domain: alex@rata.vuw.ac.nz Victoria University of Wellington Path: ...!uunet!vuwcomp!rata!alex P.O Box 600, New Zealand. Trolls can often be found under bridges ... or in Computing Departments.