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From: scott@dtscp1.UUCP (Scott Barman)
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Size of the Internet vs. UUCP net
Message-ID: <655@dtscp1.UUCP>
Date: 28 Apr 89 18:34:10 GMT
References: <1989Apr24.203137.5835@utzoo.uucp> <163@ncis.tis.llnl.gov>
Reply-To: scott@dtscp1.UUCP (Scott Barman)
Organization: Digital Transmission Systems (a subsidiary of DCA), Duluth, GA
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In article <163@ncis.tis.llnl.gov> mcb@ncis.tis.llnl.gov (Michael C. Berch) writes:
> [...]
>Contrast this with the estimated size of the UUCP network, which is
>somewhere around 20,000 (the UUCP Map has about 15,000, right, plus a
>fudge factor of 33%).  Subtract from that number the sites in the UUCP
>Network that are also Internet sites or site gateways (that use
>RFC821/822) and the relative sizes bewcome more clear.
>
>Its pioneering history notwithstanding, I believe that in 1989 the
>original V7 UUCP mail format is really not much more than a footnote.

So now the 20,000 sites who cannot (for one reason or another) be on
the Internet are footnotes?  I'd like to thank you for making us
"feel good" because we do not have the resorces (read: money) to be on
the Internet!  Do we, a small company now a division of a larger company
in *cut-back* mode, want to be on the Internet?  It is entirely possible
(read: the subject has come up for discussion because I keep bringing
it up).  But do I want to participate with the elitist @#$%s who have lost
the initial Usenet spirit of cooperation in a diverse, global community?
Well, to those I feed news to via a modem and uucp, if we do decided on
joining the Internet, we will continue to supply this service eventhough
the elitists don't want us to.

By the way, if someone at Bellcore is reading this, could you please tell
us if internal email is still passed via uucp?  It has only been 1.5 years
since I was a consultant there and as I recalled, they had a Micom (serial)
network that allowed them to get to any machine from any machine in the
company.  I had heard they were trying to go ethernet, so is this still
true?

-- 
scott barman
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