Path: utzoo!attcan!ncrcan!ziebmef!cks
From: cks@ziebmef.uucp (Chris Siebenmann)
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin
Subject: Re: mail headers
Message-ID: <1989Apr28.141009.13631@ziebmef.uucp>
Date: 28 Apr 89 18:10:04 GMT
References: <248.244422A4@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us> <636@dtscp1.UUCP> <1628@ccnysci.UUCP> <641@dtscp1.UUCP> <10716@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU>
Reply-To: cks@ziebmef.UUCP (Chris Siebenmann)
Organization: Ziebmef Public Access Unix, Toronto, Ontario
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 I've just discovered another case where Received: headers would be
very useful if only the systems involved would give them to me. I
recently posted some messages to comp.unix.ultrix, which used to be
moderated and is now unmoderated. So far, I have got 24 bounce messages
from mailers; either because people gateway the newsgroup into a
mailing list or because they're trying to send it to the
ex-moderator's machine and not having much success.

 If the bounce messages had included Received: headers on the messages,
I could have found out the systems that gatewayed between the newsgroup
and email. As it is, I'm going to have to bother the sysadmins at the
sites that are bouncing my messages instead.

 Received: headers are fluff most of the time ... but once in a while
you want them BADLY.

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