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From: kim@watsup.waterloo.edu (Kim Nguyen)
Newsgroups: kw.general,ont.general
Subject: Re: Radar Detectors (was Highway Driving Rules)
Keywords: speed limits
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Date: 8 May 89 18:06:52 GMT
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In article <907@mks.UUCP> wheels@mks.UUCP (Gerry Wheeler) writes:
>My understanding, not necessarily correct, is that the transport of a
>radar detector is illegal in Ontario.  That is, you can't carry one from
>here to there, not even in your trunk, not even if it is not connected. 
>Visitors from more liberal places have been advised to leave their
>detector at home, or check it some place before they enter the province. 
>If that is so, then I would guess the police could certainly pull you
>over if they see one on your dashboard. 

A friend of mine doubts this line of reasoning.  He says that a judge
would throw the case out if you ever contested, since IF you were not
exceeding the speed limit and you were not doing anything unlawful
(weaving in and out), then the police officer had no reason to stop
you.  The justification:  could the police stop ANYONE simply because
they suspected they were using a radar detector?  If they were
empowered to do so, then they could justify stopping ANYONE, 
and for no particular reason...

>I know for certain they will pull you over if they see you respond when
>they trigger the radar gun.  (I.E.  they are travelling with no radar,
>then they trigger the radar and watch for brake lights.  If you brake,
>you lose.) This information comes directly from a friend's brother, who
>is a police officer.

Aha!  Radar detector technique tips!  Yes, I knew that they sometimes
do this randomly.  Since the police do this, I would then assume that
they are legally able to stop you for use of a radar detector (and
thus my friend's above reasoning is invalidated).

Aside:  a police officer (friend of a friend) says that a rule of
thumb used is to not stop cars going less than 120 kph, although I
would watch out if I were alone on a stretch of highway...
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Kim Nguyen 					kim@watsup.waterloo.edu
Systems Design Engineering  --  University of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada