Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!apple!oliveb!oliven!mjm From: mjm@oliven.olivetti.com (Michael Mammoser) Newsgroups: rec.birds Subject: Re: hummingbird feeders and nectar Message-ID: <41595@oliveb.olivetti.com> Date: 9 May 89 03:04:22 GMT References: <2806@lindy.Stanford.EDU> <1360@naucse.UUCP> <8306@ihlpf.ATT.COM> <10423@ihlpb.ATT.COM> Sender: news@oliveb.olivetti.com Lines: 73 In article <10423@ihlpb.ATT.COM>, kan@ihlpb.ATT.COM (Casali) writes: > > > > > > When do hummingbirds show up in northern Illinois? > > > > Probably early to mid April. They should remain until about > > early to mid October. > > > > Mike > > Wrong, > They dont show up at the feeders until Memorial Day. > They disappear mid September. They must not be > able to take the cold nights. When I first fed them > I thought that I might wrongly encourge them to > stay if I did not remove the feeder. They were > smarter than that and just disappeared one September day. The intent of my posting was to indicate the extremes of the time frame in which to expect appearances of the Ruby Throated Hummingbird in the northern half of Illinois. I derived this range from the following references: Tyrell, "Hummingbirds, Their Life and Behavior" "Arrives in Alabama in late March, Long Island in mid April, Washington, D.C. in mid April, New York in late April, Connecticut and Massachusetts in early May, New Hampshire and Maine in early May, Quebec and Montreal in late April to early May, and Manitoba and Saskatchewan in mid May." "Leaves Manitoba in mid September, Iowa in early October, Illinois in mid October, Tennessee in late October, and Louisiana in early November." Bent, "Life Histories of North American ..., Hummingbirds and Their Allies" (choosing sightings from cities that are on a latitude that is equivalent or greater than northern Illinois and that represent the extreme.) Spring - early arrivals Philadelphia, Penn. April 16 Fort Wayne, Ind. April 14 Detroit, Mich. April 28 Toronto, Can. April 12 Minneapolis, Minn. May 1 Fall - late departures National, Iowa October 4 Keokuk, Iowa October 23 Detroit, Mich. October 7 Fort Wayne, Ind. October 9 Chicago, Ill. October 13 Philadelphia, Penn. October 12 Based on the cited references, I have no problems with the date ranges given (perhaps the early date should have been mid to late April). However, one certainly shouldn't expect to see birds with any degree of abundance at these extremes. I can't argue with your dates from feeder watching; however, perhaps a word of caution about feeder watching is in order. From Bird Watcher's Digest, May/June 1989; from an article that discusses declines in hummingbird populations based on feeder watching: "Here are some caveats against assuming that all apparent decreases in hummer populations are examples of a real decline: As we have often pointed out, hummers will desert feeding stations whenever favored nectar sources are staging a mass bloom - and in some years certain bloomings are more successful than in others. If a mass bloom is in progress when the birds arrive from the South, they may not at first use feeding stations at all, giving the impression to feeder watchers that they have not yet arrived." Mike