Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!wasatch!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!att!cbnews!nuchat!steve@uunet.UU.NET From: nuchat!steve@uunet.UU.NET (Steve Nuchia) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: USS Iowa explosion Message-ID: <6258@cbnews.ATT.COM> Date: 5 May 89 00:34:53 GMT References: <5788@cbnews.ATT.COM> <5853@cbnews.ATT.COM> <5979@cbnews.ATT.COM> <6022@cbnews.ATT.COM> <6159@cbnews.ATT.COM> Sender: military@cbnews.ATT.COM Organization: Houston Public Access Lines: 62 Approved: military@att.att.com From: nuchat!steve@uunet.UU.NET (Steve Nuchia) In article <6159@cbnews.ATT.COM> willey@unsvax.NEVADA.EDU (Adm. Pavel Chekov) writes: > Please correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I understand, one of the >major objections to the battleship in a modern navy is it's lack of ability >to defend itself from air attack. Also, with the accident on the Iowa, a That is the reason for the battlegroup doctrine. A carrier can't protect itself from submarines (continuously, anyway) either, and in the nuclear battlefield our strategists insist on planning for you want your air pickets rather far out from the assets they protect anyway. >replacement 16" gun is needed and none exist. > Would it be feasible to remove turret #2 from the Iowa and replace it >with a verticle launch system for SM-2 missiles to give the battleship >protection from aircraft. Not only would this add to the defense of the ship, >but it would also give the Navy two 16" gun replacements. Not only is it practicle, I expect that is what will happen. The verticle-launch missle battery is what, 64 tubes? The deck area allocated to the turret, including barrel clearance would take at least two and probably four launcher pads. That would not only free up the salvagable parts of the turret, it would also leave a whole bunch of below-deck space for new uses. Like maybe a missle magazine and/of fuel storage to make the battle group less dependent on auxilliaries. > 1 : How many SM-2's could be accomodated? (ready to fire and reloads) > 2 : Could an anti-submarine defense be fit into this re-fit? Sure, can the VLS handle ASROCs? If not just stick a few ASROC launchers on some of the extra deck space. And don't the BBs have helos? Not a bad way to defend against subs, but like the carriers they are more expensive ($/unit benefit) to operate than a picket. Does she have a sonar? You have to aim ASROCs... And the new systems would be much less well armored than the guns, so chances are they would poop out rather early in a fight. Developing versions of the new systems that would be well balanced with the survivability of the rest of the platform would be very expensive. > 3 : Would the re-fit be worth the time and money? There's the rub. You would have to "edit" the armor around the new weapons extensively, particularly the horizontal components. Given that we no longer have the technology to build armored ships, how well will we be able to do on such a major refit? Then you have to ask if the money might be better spent developing a replacement gun. After all, the BBs are superb offensive weapons -- why turn 1/3 of their weight into defensive weapons when we already know how to defend them with pickets? -- Steve Nuchia South Coast Computing Services uunet!nuchat!steve POB 890952 Houston, Texas 77289 (713) 964 2462 Consultation & Systems, Support for PD Software.