Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!mcvax!kth!draken!bmc1!kuling!irf
From: irf@kuling.UUCP (Bo Thide')
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Subject: Re: 80486 vs. 68040 code size
Message-ID: <1005@kuling.UUCP>
Date: 12 May 89 13:01:49 GMT
References: <922@aber-cs.UUCP> <8081@killer.Dallas.TX.US>
Reply-To: irf@kuling.UUCP (Bo Thide')
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Organization: Dept. of Computer Systems, Uppsala University, Sweden
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In article <8081@killer.Dallas.TX.US> elg@killer.Dallas.TX.US (Eric Green) writes:
>in article <922@aber-cs.UUCP>, pcg@aber-cs.UUCP (Piercarlo Grandi) says:
>> Also, the 68020 was introduced not much before the 386, and certainly the
>> 386 has been around far longer than the 68030. Or I am goofing?
>
>You're goofing. 68020's have been around at least since 1986 (which is
>when I saw my first one, a CCA add-on processor for the Amiga). And
>Suns 3s had them before then.  The '020 became available a bit over a

And HP9000/300s had them before Sun....

>As for the price difference: Apollo's low-end '030 machine is
>advertised for around $6k, which is about what a competitive '386
>machine (4 megs of RAM, super-VGA, etc.) would cost. Remember, these
 
We just bought our HP9000/340 with 68030/16.7 MHz for the equivalent
of $5.2 k.

>> on the few 68030 machines around (Next, Macs, Suns), it seems that one
                                                 ^^^^
Sun just announced theirs.  Have they delivered yet?  I got my HP9000/370
half a year ago.  It runs at 8+ MIPS .....

>> statement I have read (68030 == 68020+10/15%) is quite reasonable
>Figures I've seen indicate about a 20-30% improvement. Note that

.. and runs almost twice as fast as my old HP9000/350 with 68020/25 MHz
(about 12000 Dhrys(2.1)/sec vs. 6500).



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