Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!bionet!ames!oliveb!tymix!cirrusl!sunkist!grenley From: grenley@sunkist.UUCP (George Grenley) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Silicon Innovation - was Re: Purchasing Agents and Pontiffs Message-ID: <744@cirrusl.UUCP> Date: 18 May 89 19:24:26 GMT References: <25395@ames.arc.nasa.gov> <28200315@mcdurb> <19913@obiwan.mips.COM> <40106@bbn.COM> Sender: news@cirrusl.UUCP Reply-To: grenley@sunkist (George Grenley) Organization: CIRRUS LOGIC Inc. Lines: 22 In article <40106@bbn.COM> slackey@BBN.COM (Stan Lackey) writes: >I remember trying to convince reps from semi houses that they should >make an edge-triggered SRAM; they could do away with the >address-line-change detector circuits, and have a dandy edge to start >the timing chain, and we would have a faster RAM with a built-in >address register. The response? "Shut up, you're a system designer. >You don't know anything about RAM's." We even could never convince them >that you don't need a cycle time equal to access time! I worked at Mostek in the earlt eighties; at that time they made a line of edge triggered (CS*) SRAMs and ROMs - state of the art in speed and density, too (for the time). Boy, did you system designers beat us up on that!!! The market SCREAMED for access time = cycle time, no clocking required, full ripple through operation. I recall practically being thrown out of customers for even suggesting they provide a clock. Guess you weren't one of 'em, though, Stan ;-) It's worth noting, BTW - Mostek doesn't make much of anything anymore.