Newsgroups: comp.arch Path: utzoo!henry From: henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) Subject: Re: 68020 vs. 68030 speed (was Re: 80486 vs. 68040 code size) Message-ID: <1989May19.163917.1025@utzoo.uucp> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology References: <4229@ficc.uu.net> <6924@cbmvax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 19 May 89 16:39:17 GMT In article <6924@cbmvax.UUCP> daveh@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Haynie) writes: >> Probably. I've never had the opportunity to use or even see a 32000-based >> machine, unfortunately. Is the problem market timing, the prestige of the >> people who started Sun, or what? > >I think the problem was the first 32ks ... were kinda wimpy as >compared to the existing 680x0s at the time... The problem was not so much wimpiness, as the state of the bug list. Ugh. Choke. Barf. The first 32ks looked okay on paper but were a disaster area in silicon. And National took so long fixing them that almost everybody lost interest. At the beginning they were a bit behind, but had a fair chance to pick up a significant share of the market if they'd had clean silicon. They, uh, didn't. I'm told that they have cleaned up their act quite a bit since, but that early stumble was so severe that it hasn't done them a lot of good. -- Subversion, n: a superset | Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology of a subset. --J.J. Horning | uunet!attcan!utzoo!henry henry@zoo.toronto.edu