Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!deimos.cis.ksu.edu!uxc!uxc.cso.uiuc.edu!mcdurb!dfields From: dfields@mcdurb.Urbana.Gould.COM Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Criteria ... [really: are N des Message-ID: <28200317@mcdurb> Date: 19 May 89 13:26:00 GMT References: <173@dg.dg.com> Lines: 23 Nf-ID: #R:dg.dg.com:173:mcdurb:28200317:000:1124 Nf-From: mcdurb.Urbana.Gould.COM!dfields May 19 08:26:00 1989 >/* Written 9:25 am May 16, 1989 by mpogue@dg.dg.com in mcdurb:comp.arch */ >/* ---------- "Re: Criteria ... [really: are N des" ---------- */ >In article <104996@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> khb@sun.UUCP (Keith Bierman - SPD Languages Marketing -- MTS) writes: >>> >>> My preference is to have a third party do the numbers (no fudging allowed!). >> >>Typically no understanding of the machine either. In former >>incarnations I was on the user side. It was (and still is) that most >>third parties don't know how to run the machine right. So as a >>customer I got each vendor to run my code, and explain what they did. >>directives could increase performance fourfold .... > > Yes, I agree that it is important to get somebody knowledgable to run >the benchmarks. Just any third party will not do (sorry I didn't make this >clearer). If a third party can't figure out how to make a simple benchmark run fast on your system, how do you expect your customers to be able port an aplication which takes advantage of your high performance system? Dave Fields // Motorola MCD dfields@urbana.mcd.mot.com uunet!uiucdcs!mcdurb!dfields