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From: elg@killer.Dallas.TX.US (Eric Green)
Newsgroups: comp.edu
Subject: Re: "Shortage" of American Grad Students
Message-ID: <8105@killer.Dallas.TX.US>
Date: 15 May 89 01:45:12 GMT
References: <29168@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>
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in article <29168@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU>, tedrick@ernie.Berkeley.EDU (Tom Tedrick) says:
> One of the latest schemes for extracting more money from
> the government by public universities is the "shortage of
> American grad students" scam.

Yawn. Looking at where Tom Tedrick is posting the bulletin from tells
the whole story. Hate to tell you this, Tom, but most public
universities are NOT like UCB, which may or may not be as bad as you
say (but that's irrelevant). I attend one of those "greedy bastard
public universities" you so decry, one that's actively recruiting
foreign students to its graduate CS program. Unlike UCB, we don't get
to choose the cream of the crop. From what I've seen, USL's graduate
CS program will accept just about anybody who has the foggiest chance
of succeeding in the curriculum... but American grad students are
still in the minority. Without the foreign grad students, USL's
research efforts would be severely crippled, although instruction
probably would suffer little (most of the grad students who deal
directly with the undergrad student body seem to be American-born). 

Go take your ivory tower conspiracies and retreat back to your own
personal tower at Berkeley. The blue-collar public universities of the
U.S. don't need that kind of hysteria-mongering... they already have
enough trouble getting adequate funding and sufficient enrollments of
talented students (who, naturally, would rather be going to MIT or
Berkeley). 

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