Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cornell!batcomputer!rpi!rpi.edu!tale From: tale@pawl.rpi.edu (David C Lawrence) Newsgroups: comp.emacs Subject: Re: see-chars for GNU Message-ID: Date: 11 May 89 01:33:58 GMT References: <4362@omepd.UUCP> <2122@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu> <189@sibyl.eleceng.ua.OZ> Sender: usenet@rpi.edu Reply-To: tale@pawl.rpi.edu Lines: 23 In-reply-to: ian@sibyl.eleceng.ua.OZ's message of 10 May 89 11:54:06 GMT In I wrote: Dave>I disagree. Say I want to find out what F5 is on a Sun keyboard. Dave>Poking at F5 and then typing C-h l will certainly tell me what was Dave>typed, but it also will insert "28z" into my buffer after beeping at Dave>me because M-[ 2 is undefined. In <189@sibyl.eleceng.ua.OZ> ian@sibyl.eleceng.ua.OZ (Ian Dall) responded: Ian> C-h k does the trick pretty much if you don't mind being told whether or Ian> not the key is bound to anything. I disagree again ... the exact same thing would happen again. It would tell me that M-[ 2 is undefined and then spit 28z into my buffer. Whoa, says the novice, where did that 28z come from? Heck, I'd be wondering where it came from too if I stumbled over the key accidentally and had my audible bell disabled. Randal's function is just fine for finding out the key sequence of unknown keys ... it is not a reinvention of the wheel to make the determining of key sequences more direct rather than kludgy, indirect and unobvious (as the two other methods I use are). Dave -- tale@rpitsmts.bitnet, tale%mts@itsgw.rpi.edu, tale@pawl.rpi.edu