Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!yale!Ram-Ashwin From: Ram-Ashwin@cs.yale.edu (Ashwin Ram) Newsgroups: comp.emacs Subject: Re: how come vt100? (was Re: running vi inside GNU emacs vs. ftp-find-file) Message-ID: <60618@yale-celray.yale.UUCP> Date: 16 May 89 02:46:36 GMT References: <39714@bbn.COM> <860007@hpcljms.HP.COM> Sender: root@yale.UUCP Reply-To: Ram-Ashwin@cs.yale.edu (Ashwin Ram) Distribution: comp Organization: Computer Science, Yale University, New Haven, CT 06520-2158 Lines: 34 In-reply-to: wjc@ho5cad.ATT.COM (Bill Carpenter) In article , wjc@ho5cad.ATT.COM (Bill Carpenter) writes: > > > The terminal-emulator is close to a real solution, but isn't very > > > clean. Does anyone have a real vt100 emulator? > > When I see questions like this, I always wonder what folks really > want: > > 1. Do you want a vt100 emulator because you go to non-UNIX systems > that aren't flexible on terminal types (nothing like termcap/ > terminfo)? > > 2. Do you just want the terminal emulator to be something recognized > by the UNIX system you're on? (Not likely that most people have > termcaps for the emulator's codes, but they can be built readily.) > > 3. Or are you really finding things that the terminal emulator > doesn't do correctly, even after you set up a terminfo or termcap > entry? > > [...] > So, what's the real question? Why do you want vt100 emulation? For reasons 1 and 2. Many non-Unix systems don't like non-vt100 terminals (or need to be cajoled into working with them), and even on Unix systems I think it would be hard for someone with less experience to create a termcap entry and to write shell script code to use the correct termcap entry (since now the new entry would be in a different place from all the standard entries in /etc/termcap). Plus the emulator in terminal.el doesn't have all the features of vt100 terminals. I would also like to see a vt100 emulator -- surely it can't be less useful than terminal.el? Why would you *not* want vt100 emulation? -- Ashwin.