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From: scs@vax3.iti.org (Steve Simmons)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Re: Behavior of ' ' considered inconsistant
Summary: We asymptoticly approach understanding!  :-)
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Date: 11 May 89 15:41:57 GMT
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In article <5257@pbhyf.PacBell.COM> rob@PacBell.COM (Rob Bernardo) writes:
>Zowie! You're confused. :-)

No no, Gaston, after you!  :-)

I understand about the physical order vs. display order in the mailbox;
we're in synch on that.

>The numbers in the
>second column reflect the sorted message sequence, not the physical
>sequence of the messages in the folder.  Elm never reveals to you
>in any display what the physical order of messages is, only the sorted
>order.

Unless you select mailbox order, right?

>So, although the May 2nd letter *precedes* the May 3rd letter physically
>in the folder, it *follows* it in this index display.

I'm still with you...

>Now, if you read through the May 3rd letter (letter #4) with ' ', at the
>end of the message, you will get the first "page" of the "next" letter,
>letter #4, which is the May 2nd letter.

Yes, that's the performance I'm seeing.

>You are reading the messages in reverse-date-sent order and the index
>displays the messages in reverse-date-sent order. Next = downward
>on the index screen = increasing message numbers in column #2.
>
>Poof! You're enlightened! :-)

Aha!  Right again!  Unfortunately, what I'm enlightened about is where
we are misunderstanding each other!  :-)  [[jeez, this is actually fun]]

I want the meaning of *next* to match what onc has selected for the
sorting option.  To wit:
  if ( display order != reversed )
    next = downward = increasing message numbers in column #2
  else
    next = upward = decreasing message numbers in column #2

Is everyone else bored with this?  :-)

   Steve Simmons         Just another midwestern boy
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