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From: tim@attdso.att.com (Tim J Ihde)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: The builtin pager (was Re: Behavior of ' ' considered inconsistant)
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Date: 16 May 89 13:13:46 GMT
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In article <32@wave4.webo.dg.com> tom@wave4.dg.com (Tom Jordahl) writes:
>In article <9336@b-tech.ann-arbor.mi.us> zeeff@b-tech.ann-arbor.mi.us (Jon Zeeff) writes:
>>>I would rather see enhancements to the pager that noone has objected to,
>>>such as being able to scroll backwards within a message, like less.
>>
>>I would definitely like to see someone add this.  Even a simple 1 page
>>scroll back would be useful.
>
>I simply use less as the default pager.  Do many people do this?  Is more
>used for this default?  Why would you use the built-in pager if more powerfull
>pagers are "standard" ( I am referring to more here) on your system?

Well, I used less as my pager under elm 1.5.  Since we've upgraded to
2.2, I've begun using the builtin pager.  It depends upon what you mean
by powerful . . .

The primary reason I switched is the ability to enter elm commands at the
pager prompt.  I can look at the first page of a message, hit d to delete it,
and the next message just pops up.  Similar to what you can do at the index
prompt, only now I'm looking at the entire first page instead of just the
subject.

Granted this wouldn't be such a wonderful advantage at 1200 baud, but at
9.6 I like it.

Most of the other elm commands are also available at the pager prompt (save,
print, reply, bounce, etc).  Works quite nicely.

It would be very nice to be able to scroll backwords, although except for
HUGE messages just hitting 'h' will get you back to the top.  If it does get
put in, then someone please think carefully about what keys to use (I
still occasionally use the less command 'u' to try to scroll up in rn, but end
up unsubscribing to the current newsgroup - argh!).

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