Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!unmvax!deimos.cis.ksu.edu!uxc!uxc.cso.uiuc.edu!m.cs.uiuc.edu!p.cs.uiuc.edu!zweig From: zweig@p.cs.uiuc.edu Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Sequence numbers provide security?? Message-ID: <93400019@p.cs.uiuc.edu> Date: 10 May 89 04:28:00 GMT References: <8905081540.AA07029@TIS.COM> Lines: 21 Nf-ID: #R:<8905081540.AA07029@TIS.COM>:-28:p.cs.uiuc.edu:93400019:000:974 Nf-From: p.cs.uiuc.edu!zweig May 9 23:28:00 1989 Since presumably if someone at node Foo is trying to impersonate someone from node Bar in establishing a TCP connection with node Dog, the replies will all actually be sent to Bar (and Foo may never see them), Foo needs to be able to guess the initial sequence number node Dog will issue in order to impersonate Bar. The article is talking about faking a TCP connection establishment handshake when all you're able to do is send packets that look like they originated elsewhere -- if you can intercept all packets destined for the person you are impersonating, authentication becomes much trickier. -Johnny Zweig University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Department of Computer Science --------------------------------Disclaimer:------------------------------------ Rule 1: Don't believe everything you read. Rule 2: Don't believe anything you read. Rule 3: There is no Rule 3. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------