Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Path: utzoo!henry From: henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) Subject: Re: TCP/IP on MIDI? Message-ID: <1989May11.165157.23656@utzoo.uucp> Followup-To: sci.electronics Organization: U of Toronto Zoology References: <1989May3.180345.6936@utzoo.uucp> <4076@ficc.uu.net> <1989May9.184646.2106@utzoo.uucp> <4135@ficc.uu.net> Date: Thu, 11 May 89 16:51:57 GMT In article <4135@ficc.uu.net> peter@ficc.uu.net (Peter da Silva) writes: >> No, it's the result of not conforming to the standards, pure and simple. >> What is gained is speed; what is lost is reliability and interoperability. > >It certainly seems reliable and it interoperates quite happily with RS232 at >RS232 speeds, and with MIDI at MIDI speeds... >Do you have data to back up this claim about reliability and interoperability, >or do you just have a problem with the Amiga? I don't have anything in particular against the Amiga; I do have a serious dislike for people who violate standards simply because they think they can improve on them. What matters is not whether it usually works, but whether it is *guaranteed* to work, even with strange new equipment. Believe me, some nominally RS232-compatible equipment is *very* strange. If you run in a forgiving environment with hardware that is known to work well with the Amiga's non-standard "RS232" interface, you'll probably never have any trouble. Things change when, for example, you are selling the things and have customers complaining that their XYZ Computer Company Weirdobox doesn't work with their "RS232 compatible" Amiga. Or when you're trying to push the limits on things like timing and cable length. Then less-than- complete compliance with standards can be very significant. This probably doesn't belong in tcp-ip any more, so I've pointed followups to sci.electronics. -- Mars in 1980s: USSR, 2 tries, | Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology 2 failures; USA, 0 tries. | uunet!attcan!utzoo!henry henry@zoo.toronto.edu