Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!apple!keith From: keith@Apple.COM (Keith Rollin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: User Support.... and more! Message-ID: <30778@apple.Apple.COM> Date: 16 May 89 00:13:32 GMT References: <8905150839.AA04525@crash.cts.com> Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA Lines: 59 In article <8905150839.AA04525@crash.cts.com> pnet01!pro-sat!pro-cyon!neilhncc1701d@nosc.mil writes: > > Ok, look here folks... >... > Point two: As someone pointed out, Apple tells alot about the future of >the Mac. What about the //?? Hardly anything... I don't think this is quite true. Apple has announced System Disk 5.0 for the Apple IIGS, and has promised a new Apple II sometime 12-18 months after the SF AppleFest (ie, not officially an announcement). Score = 1 1/2. Apple has made certain direction statements concerning System Disk 7.0 for the Macintosh (again, NOT an announcement). Score = 1/2. Apple II wins here! > Point three: Alot of magazines for OTHER computers have been writing >about the demise of the Apple //. I can think of an article an Amiga friend >read to me that rather violently attacked the IIgs specifically and how the >//s are dying/dead/buried. Yeah, and I wish they'd stop doing that! They're killing the market! Look at all the turmoil they've caused with their unfounded rumours. > Point four: We, the Apple // users ourselves, doubt that Apple will do >anything in the way of announcments for the //, and so have concocted that the >// is dying... > > Look folks, IT'S POSSIBLE!! Perhaps Apple wishes to move on to bigger and >better markets where the $$$ lies. > > I've said it once, and I'll say it again... we need to support ourselves! >Write our own software, come up with our own mods to whatever, and possibly, >homemade hardware... That's all possible... Hear, hear! That's the spirit I like to see. A computer is only popular if its owners are behind it! it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with how aggresively Apple updates it. Remember, for the first 6 years of Apple's exist- ance, there were only the Apple II and II+. It seemed pretty popular then, and only because people like you were writing neato games, databases, spreadsheets, word processors, exploiting AppleSoft, revving DOS 3.x, etc. It could still be that way. Anyone got any good ProDOS hacks? How about getting Integer BASIC to run under ProDOS? Glen Bredon patched the SCSI manager. I myself patch QuickDraw to make it over twice as fast (before those nasty guys in Engineering made it over 4 times as fast). John Brooks wrote his own APW Linker to make it many times faster. Andy Nicolas wrote a groovy archiver. Dave Lyons has written many handy utilities such as Davex, Nifty List, and Diced. Just food for thought... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keith Rollin --- Apple Computer, Inc. --- Developer Technical Support INTERNET: keith@apple.com UUCP: {decwrl, hoptoad, nsc, sun, amdahl}!apple!keith "Argue for your Apple, and sure enough, it's yours" - Keith Rollin, Contusions