Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!bloom-beacon!bu-cs!dartvax!eleazar.dartmouth.edu!jonathan From: jonathan@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (Jonathan Altman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: New mouse design... WHY?! Message-ID: <13429@dartvax.Dartmouth.EDU> Date: 10 May 89 16:12:45 GMT References: <7891@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> <431a1e09.a590@mag.engin.umich.edu> <12893@ut-emx.UUCP> <736@arisia.Xerox.COM> Sender: news@dartvax.Dartmouth.EDU Reply-To: jonathan@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (Jonathan Altman) Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH Lines: 52 Well, I guess I'll jump into the optical vs. mechanical mouse debate. I vote strongly FOR the mechanical mouse. The main reason is one of what I (non-computer scientist that I am) perceive to be a modality inherent in optical mice. It works by moving the mouse around, right? But, only when on the special grid. And, only if it's aligned a certain way. Sorry, I feel that a mouse should work no matter what I scroll it around on, and at what angle I hold it. Besides my Mac is (relatively) portable. I DO travel with it. I move it around my office in one piece. I DO NOT want to have to move a stupid gridded pad around. I do not even want to HAVE a mouse pad. This brings up the next point, reliability. I got my first mac in September 1984, very early. I just recently sold that first Mac (upgraded to a plus) in February, 1989, 4.5 years (about) after I bought it. It still had the original mouse. It didn't wear out, nor did it get dirty, despite living in my various dorm rooms, apartments, etc. It also didn't mind the fact that I tend to eat at my desk when I'm writing. I don't know what the rest of you do to your mice, but mine doesn't get dirty. I now have a Mac SE/30. I was happy to get the new mouse because I like the design better (I don't think anybody else has brought this up, but I think the ergonomics of the ADB mouse are wonderful-thanks, Apple). I noticed the cheaper construction on my mouse (I have the light-ball one), but not while I'm using it. It doesn't get dirty either. As for the nicety that somebody noticed about XEROX being able to adjust the mouse tracking speed by making an enlarged copy of the grid, let me say that this is just a wonderful apology for optical mouse pads. Sure, I need to slow down the mouse. That copying machine is a LOT cheaper than adjusting the speed of my mouse with software. Right. Besides, I have a nice wood desk. The last thing I want to do is put contact paper on it. And isn't it great that if I want to CHANGE mouse tracking speeds constantly (like between applications), I've got to keep several different sets of contact paper handy to change speeds. Sorry, until somebody comes up with a mouse that has no moving parts, and stays clean, the optical-vs-mechanical debate will rage, and I'll prefer a mouse that's usable on any surface that has friction in an atmosphere with gravity, in any orientation. It's more obvious to "the rest of us." Also, please excuse what seems to be a flame at the poster of the article about XEROX mice. As far as optical mice go, it's a great solution. I also agree that a trackball based on their design would be great, as would their mouse, if it didn't require a special pattern to be present to work. Jonathan Altman jonathan@eleazar.Dartmouth.edu Database Administrator jonathan.altman@Dartmouth.edu Dartmouth Dante Project voice: 603-646-2633 301 Bartlett Hall HB 6087 Hanover, NH 03755