Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!apple!chuq From: chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Apple keyboard complaint; "Open Keyboard Foundation" Keywords: keyboard Message-ID: <30700@apple.Apple.COM> Date: 15 May 89 05:04:15 GMT References: <815@m3.mfci.UUCP> <30693@apple.Apple.COM> Organization: Life is just a Fantasy novel played for keeps Lines: 46 >>still uses them, for example, though Sun gave in long ago to >>the Taiwanese urge), I always *hated* Sun keyboards. I could never find one that felt comfortable, not even the beta/OSI/ergonomic/european ones. It's one of the few commercial keyboards I could consistently type faster than it could handle, too (I type 80WPM nominal, 120WPM in bursts. Except on Suns...) >Secretaries like >Selectrics, Generalize that to "serious typers love Selectrics" -- I have never, ever found a computer ekyboard that came close to even a selectric II keyboard in confort and feel, and the newer IBM typewriter's are even more wonderful. Not enough to make me give up word processors, but every so often I consider it.. >there's a whole class of people who swear by VT100, And another class that swear at it. My macs at home both have Datadesk 101 extended keyboards. They have the best feel of any keyboard I've run into. I'd use them at work, but non-Apple keyboards have problems on A/UX and they don't have a control key -- not a hassle under MacOS, but for plugging into a vax via MacTerminal or running A/UX. ... Also, there's no escape key, so you play games with the tilde. The original Mac keyboard reminded me of the old Commodore Pet chicklet keyboard. I have a couple sitting in storage, just in case, but I'll never use them unless I have to. The new Apple ADB keyboards aren't bad, although some of the key placements are funny -- there are enough differences between the standrd keyboard (on one of my machines) and the extended keyboard (on my A/UX machine) that I find I hit the wrong keys with some regularity. The location of the control key on the extended keyboard is ugly, which is why I haven't standardized on the extended yet. But as far as handling typing speed, comfort and feel, from someone who's a hard-core typer, both are just fine. Not perfect, but decent. Chuq Von Rospach =|= Editor,OtherRealms =|= Member SFWA/ASFA chuq@apple.com =|= CI$: 73317,635 =|= AppleLink: CHUQ [This is myself speaking. No company can control my thoughts.] Bookends. What a wonderful thought.