Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!bionet!agate!ucbvax!PICA.ARMY.MIL!kvancamp From: kvancamp@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Ken Van Camp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi Subject: Re: Windows Message-ID: <8905151354.aa11297@ARDEC-AC4.ARDEC.ARPA> Date: 15 May 89 17:54:44 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 20 >Mark Callow says they are working on the window performance issue for >release 3.2. He has really missed the point. I want the option of having >NO window manager. Yeah, what he said! On the 3000's you could at least do a reasonable amount of text operations without Mex running, but on the 4D's the only option you have is NOGRAPHICS=1 when you login. Then your visual editors don't work. I guess that's why SGI moved vi from /bin to /usr/bin on the 4D's; you can't use it anyway without your window manager running. Some times I'd like to just login for text operations, and then I don't want to have to wait for 4Sight to start up. Bad design, SGI! --Ken Van Camp ARPANET: kvancamp@PICA.ARMY.MIL -or- kvancamp@ARDEC.ARPA BITNET: (use above through normal gateways, like UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU) USENET: pica.army.mil!kvancamp@UUNET.UU.NET UUCP: ...!{uunet,rutgers}!pica.army.mil!kvancamp "Tis better to Send than to Receive."