Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uflorida!ukma!husc6!rice!sun-spots-request From: gildea@bbn.com (Stephen Gildea) Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun Subject: new Sun type-4 keyboards Keywords: Hardware Message-ID: <8905051752.AA03538@rice.edu> Date: 10 May 89 11:17:33 GMT Sender: usenet@rice.edu Organization: BBN Communications Corp, Cambridge, Massachusetts Lines: 19 Approved: Sun-Spots@rice.edu Original-Date: Fri, 05 May 89 13:50:40 -0400 X-Sun-Spots-Digest: Volume 7, Issue 280, message 18 of 18 The keyboard that Sun started shipping with the 386i and now ships with all machines, the type-4 keyboard, is a step backwards for an engineering workstation. The Delete key, which I use constantly, is way out in right field, where only the longest of pinkys can reach it. The Meta key, another one that gets full-time use, has shrunk. The | and \ key has also been moved to an unreachable position. A bit of good news: the Caps Lock is still out of the way so you are unlikely to hit it by accident. I recognize that good keyboard layout is difficult. Look at the mess DEC made of the VT220, for example. However, the desirable features have been understood for a long time. Symbolics has had a very nice design for about eight years. Why did Sun do this? If it wants to woo the IBM PC market by making a PC-style keyboard, Sun should offer a choice of keyboards (say, "IBM PC layout" and "engineering style") so as not to alienate the engineers, their existing user base. < Stephen