Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!tinman.cis.ohio-state.edu!bob From: bob@tinman.cis.ohio-state.edu (Bob Sutterfield) Newsgroups: news.admin Subject: Re: List of sites with broken Followup (No References) Software Message-ID: Date: 10 May 89 20:58:38 GMT References: <3222@looking.UUCP> <29126@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <3229@looking.UUCP> Sender: news@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu Reply-To: Bob Sutterfield Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Computer & Information Science Lines: 21 In-reply-to: brad@looking.UUCP's message of 10 May 89 16:52:53 GMT In article <3229@looking.UUCP> brad@looking.UUCP (Brad Templeton) writes: So I think we may have to do the following: d) Non-unix sites running new software must be required to adhere to the standard. I think this points out the real problem: coexistence in the real world of the rest of the net, and ability to live with all the other olden stuff and archaic practices that will persist over all our objections. We can't "require" anything, because the Usenet is a complete anarchy, governed by shouting rather than by enforcable regulations. Gateways exist, and are likely to still be around for a while. Alas, this forces us all to discover much more clever methods to do what we really want to do. But the rest of the world will eventually evolve and follow, sheep-like, along behind the bleeding edgers. By that time, the visionaries will have moved on to something else, still trying to drag the rest of the net along behind. It's a matter of practical evolution, not sudden revolution.