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From: karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Karl Denninger)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: Re: List of sites with broken Followup (No References) Software
Summary: RFC1036; where can I get a copy?
Message-ID: <3444@ddsw1.MCS.COM>
Date: 10 May 89 13:58:17 GMT
References: <3222@looking.UUCP>
Reply-To: karl@ddsw1.UUCP (Karl Denninger)
Organization: Macro Computer Solutions, Inc., Mundelein, IL
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In article <3222@looking.UUCP> brad@looking.UUCP (Brad Templeton) writes:
>Recently I wrote some software to make use of the References line in news
>articles.  Much to my dismay, I found that most articles don't have a valid
>References: line!   The reason is a small number of sites with broken posting
>programs that don't include a References: line on followups.  

I hear this.  Our software gateways Usenet to our local BBS format
(AKCSNet), and it uses the references line to figure out where to put the
responses to an article.

Of course, where there is no references line, it assumes that there is a new
item there, and starts a new thread.  Very annoying.

What's just as bad is the people who do a "g/>/s//$/g" on an article in order
to remove the quoting and bypass the "more new text than old text" item.
That command should read:
	":g/^>/s//$/g" or something similar
If you use the first form, you get ALL the ">"s, including those bracketing
the references.  That, of course, makes for an invalid references line.

Secondly, is there a place that I can uucp or get emailed to me a copy of
RFC822 and RFC1036?  I'd like to have both on file here for our work; my
working knowledge is gleaned from sources at this point.

Thanks in advance.

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