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From: diamond@diamond.csl.sony.junet (Norman Diamond)
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Subject: Re: Would news.newusers be possible? (was Re: Alternate access)
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Date: 18 May 89 03:45:49 GMT
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In article <911@twwells.uucp> bill@twwells.UUCP (T. William Wells) wrote:

>>>Hey, there's an idea: a news.newusers group, for helping beginning
...

I wrote:
>>Wouldn't news.announce.newusers fit the bill?
...

In article <925@twwells.uucp> bill@twwells.UUCP (T. William Wells) writes:

>No. News.announce.newusers has several drawbacks:

Several others have suggested the same thing, and have convinced me.  OK...

>>Followups have been redirected back to news.misc.

>Like hell!

Huh?  What was wrong with that?

>Mr. Diamond, that was irresponsible of you. It is one thing to
>assert, as you did with your not too successful sarcasm, that you
>believe the proposal lacks merit; it is quite another to waste
>bandwidth in an inappropriate group.

I really thought that you were unaware of news.announce.newusers.
After all it is not made obvious to new users that n.a.n exists, and
if you never had occasion to find out about it later, then you might
not guess that it exists.  I did not think your proposal was unreason-
able, only unnecessary (and have since been convinced otherwise).
And although I often try to be witty, I was not trying to be sarcastic.
Please look again to see if I criticized you or hinted at a criticism,
or impugned your intelligence, etc.  In fact, I hinted at exactly the
opposite.  Please look at what was said, in addition to how it was
said.  I am sorry that you took it as sarcasm, and I will try to be
more careful in the future.

>Perhaps you would benefit from the answers to some new-user type
>questions?

Uh, by this time, I think you also might, Bill.

--
Norman Diamond, Sony Computer Science Lab (diamond%csl.sony.co.jp@relay.cs.net)
  The above opinions are my own.   |  Why are programmers criticized for
  If they're also your opinions,   |  re-implementing the wheel, when car
  you're infringing my copyright.  |  manufacturers are praised for it?