Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!tektronix!percival!parsely!sopwith!snoopy From: snoopy@sopwith.UUCP (Snoopy) Newsgroups: news.sysadmin Subject: Re: mail headers Message-ID: <174@sopwith.UUCP> Date: 12 May 89 05:33:36 GMT References: <248.244422A4@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us> <636@dtscp1.UUCP> <1628@ccnysci.UUCP> <641@dtscp1.UUCP> <1989Apr24.203137.5835@utzoo.uucp> Reply-To: snoopy@sopwith.UUCP (Snoopy) Organization: The Daisy Hill Puppy Farm Lines: 55 In article <1989Apr24.203137.5835@utzoo.uucp> henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer) writes: |In article weening@Gang-of-Four.Stanford.EDU (Joe Weening) writes: |>One has to recognize that the Internet and its protocols have become |>dominant, and are supplanting any "standards" that ever existed in the |>UUCP world... And one has to wonder why yet another case of inferior "standards" are being allowed to become dominant. UUCP is clearly superior. Those who are tempted to argue for the ARPA Internet conventions should read and understand "The Hideous Name", by Rob Pike and P.J. Weinberger, in the Summer 1985 Usenix Conference Proceedings. A few short quotes to whet your interest: research!ucbvax!@cmu-cs-pt.arpa:@CMU-ITC-LINUS:dave%CMU-ITC-LINUS@CMU-CS-PT -Carnegie-Mellon University mailer I cannot tell what the dickens his name is. -Shakespeare, Merry Wives of Windsor, II. ii, 20. "specification of a fully qualified address can become inconvenient." - RFC 822 Second, there are at least two special characters, '@' and '.', although the @ serves no purpose. Finally, the standard requires 'registered' domain names: all the names that occur as domains in valid names must be registered before use, thus arrogating to ARPA Internet administration the authority to legislate naming. As a result, the whole thing is encompassed in a closed society and there are very few registered names. So much for internetworking. -R.P. & P.J.W. Some standards are sound and indispensable; some simply celebrate bureaucratic littleness of mind. -Doug McIlroy They [RFC 822 & 882] represent the unilateral imposition of a deficient standard that is poluting those communities that have comprehensible naming schemes. -R.P. & P.J.W. To those who argue which network is larger, consider (a) the large and growing population of 'personal', 'home', and 'small business' machines using UUCP protocols; and (b) whether technical issues should be decided by the method of might-makes-right. _____ /_____\ Snoopy "My dot-matrix does Postscript." /_______\ |___| tekecs.gwd.tek.com!sopwith!snoopy |___| sun!nosun!illian!sopwith!snoopy parsely!sopwith!snoopy