Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!cwjcc!hal!ncoast!allbery From: allbery@ncoast.ORG (Brandon S. Allbery) Newsgroups: news.sysadmin Subject: Re: Size of the Internet vs. UUCP net Message-ID: <13655@ncoast.ORG> Date: 19 May 89 01:24:05 GMT References: <1989Apr24.203137.5835@utzoo.uucp> <163@ncis.tis.llnl.gov> <552@aurora.AthabascaU.CA> <25459@amdcad.AMD.COM> <1016@mcmi.UUCP> <1046@ittg.UUCP> <3174@epimass.EPI.COM> <285@xdos.UUCP> Reply-To: allbery@NCoast.ORG (Brandon S. Allbery) Followup-To: news.sysadmin Organization: Cleveland Public Access UN*X, Cleveland, Oh Lines: 35 As quoted from <285@xdos.UUCP> by doug@xdos.UUCP (Doug Merritt): +--------------- | If you want people to have "real" domain addresses, you need to have | a way of *cheaply* assigning them to leaf nodes without requiring a | change in their connectivity. When I say "cheap", I mean less than | a hundred bucks per year, preferably about $35. (Or is this already | possible?) +--------------- Only possible to a limited extent. For example, ncoast was able to become NCoast.ORG via my donation of $35 to the cause (a ONE-TIME fee, to UUNET) -- but this was because hal.cwru.edu was willing to be our forwarder. This probably isn't possible for all sites; I suspect the only reason CWRU agreed to it is because ncoast is already Cleveland's "back-up" Usenet hub. And while there may be many philanthropic universities out there, willing to be Internet forwarders for sites which ask for it; but there aren't enough to be forwarders for *every* UUCP site. My "dream solution" is to have a bunch of UUNETs connected over a WAN, in major cities throughout the U.S. Fat chance! --it'd cost too much, and who would pay for it? Although if every Usenet site had to pay $500/year and charged the users to cover it, it wouldn't be *that* bad. On ncoast, with 70 real users n /etc/passwd and 35 "arbitron" NetReaders, that amounts to $15/user/year by the arbitron net-readers count and $7.50/user/year by real users in /etc/passwd. Surely the Usenet is worth *that* much! And if you charge UUCP accounts as well, the per-user cost is even smaller. Of course, it'll *NEVER* happen. ++Brandon -- Brandon S. Allbery, moderator of comp.sources.misc allbery@ncoast.org uunet!hal.cwru.edu!ncoast!allbery ncoast!allbery@hal.cwru.edu Send comp.sources.misc submissions to comp-sources-misc@ NCoast Public Access UN*X - (216) 781-6201, 300/1200/2400 baud, login: makeuser