Path: utzoo!lsuc!ncrcan!moegate!soley
From: soley@moegate.UUCP (Norman S. Soley)
Newsgroups: ont.general
Subject: Re: Radar Detectors (was Highway Driving Rules)
Keywords: speed limits
Message-ID: <296@moegate.UUCP>
Date: 10 May 89 02:41:04 GMT
References: <852@mv03.ecf.toronto.edu> <9556@watcgl.waterloo.edu> <907@mks.UUCP> <1865@yunexus.UUCP>
Reply-To: soley@moegate.UUCP (Norman S. Soley)
Organization: Ontario Ministry of the Environment
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In article <1865@yunexus.UUCP> landolt@yunexus.UUCP (Paul Landolt) writes:
>In article <907@mks.UUCP> wheels@mks.UUCP (Gerry Wheeler) writes:
>>
>>I know for certain they will pull you over if they see you respond when
>>they trigger the radar gun.  (I.E.  they are travelling with no radar,
>>then they trigger the radar and watch for brake lights.  If you brake,
>>you lose.) This information comes directly from a friend's brother, who
>>is a police officer.
>
>I was under the impression that trying to pick out someone with a
>radar detector using this method was entrapment.

Huh? Entrapment occurs when a police officer in some way entices or coerces
one to commit a crime, hence it would be entrapment for an undercover officer 
to approach you to sell a radar detector then arrest you for having it, if 
on the other hand you approach him...

There are other legal concepts which might apply in such a case, if the use
of the radar gun in such a fashion were considered to be a search, then 
the officer should have probable cause before using the gun in such a fashion.
However considering that the radar gun is a routine tool of police work you
would have to prove in court that it was being used specifically as to catch
illegal detectors and not for speed limit enforcement, no chance of doing that

I've said it before but I'll say it again, with the current level of technology
used by the OPP and most municipal forces these boxes are virtually useless and
real easy to for the police to detect. In addition to the moral implications 
you'd be pretty stupid to shell out good money on one.
-- 
Norman Soley - The Communications Guy - Ontario Ministry of the Environment
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