Newsgroups: can.general Path: utzoo!lsuc!dave From: dave@lsuc.on.ca (David Sherman) Subject: Re: income tax tips #22: interest accrual Date: Fri, 26-May-89 12:02:59 EDT Summary: putting small business shares into an RRSP Message-ID: <1989May26.120302.24950@lsuc.on.ca> Distribution: can References: <1989May22.195737.16996@lsuc.uucp> <672@idacom.UUCP> Organization: Law Society of Upper Canada, Toronto In article <672@idacom.UUCP> ianmoss@idacom.UUCP (Ian Moss) writes: > >A recent article in the Financial Post by Bob Saunders of Vancouver >suggested it is possible to hold shares in a private company in a >self-directed RRSP. A little research led to an article in the >July-August 1988 edition of the Canadian Tax Reporter (vol 36, No.4 You mean the Canadian Tax Journal. (There's a big difference.) >pg. 992 ). To my layman's view, it appears that myself and other employees >in our company should be able to take advantage of this type of tax >break using shares we have bought and/or received from a profit sharing >plan. I have a couple of questions however that perhaps you could help >me with. The provisions for putting small business shares into an RRSP were introduced in 1986 and have never been widely used, because of their restrictions. I used them in January 1987 for my own RRSP, and I had some questions about the wording in the Act when I was setting it up. When I spoke with the person at the Department of Finance who had drafted the provision in question, he was delighted to hear that I was using them, because I was the first person he'd heard of who was doing so! (I also had to shop around for a long time before finding a broker who would accept a self-directed RRSP with small business shares -- most of them didn't, and probably still don't, understand it.) > 1. What constitutes "dealing at arm's length"? Do employees >holding small amounts of voting shares in a private company qualify >as "at arm's length"? Usually. "Related" (as defined) persons are deemed not to deal at arm's length, and in other cases it's a question of fact. (ITA s.251(1)) > > 2. How do we determine with reasonable confidence that our shares >qualify for inclusion in a self-directed RRSP? I assume that the plan >administrator would require some form of "authorization" before issuing >the necessary documentation for filing with a tax return. In my case I got a letter from the Secretary of the corporation setting out all of the facts required to satisfy the conditions laid down in the Act. The broker was happy with that. I suggest you consult a qualified tax expert for professional advice, to make sure you do it right. >Additional references - Section 146, regulations 4900 and 5100 ... which totals 25 pages of dense type and impenetrable language. Happy reading, if you try on your own... > Income Tax Act RSC 1952 c148 as amended by sc1970-71-72 c63 > and as subsequently amended. That's just legalese for "the Income Tax Act". You only see it in footnotes. David Sherman (author, forthcoming book, "Income Tax Research") -- Moderator, mail.yiddish { uunet!attcan att utzoo }!lsuc!dave dave@lsuc.on.ca