Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!agate!violet.berkeley.edu!steve From: steve@violet.berkeley.edu (Steve Goldfield) Newsgroups: comp.databases Subject: Re: Ingres Phasing Out at Berkeley Message-ID: <24756@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: 23 May 89 15:41:17 GMT References: <24519@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> <3560039@wdl1.UUCP> Sender: usenet@agate.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 31 In article <3560039@wdl1.UUCP> mitchell@wdl1.UUCP (Jo Mitchell) writes: #> SO - what are they replacing INGRES with? Postgres? As far as I know, it isn't being replaced by any other database on the university's cluster of VAXes. In fairness, I should mention that my group was the main one using Ingres on the university machines and probably the only one paying for it in hard cash, so our decision to move to a cheaper department machine was probably the principal cause of dropping Ingres. Still, I find it ironic that here in Berkeley, where Ingres was born, it doesn't get much respect. From what I've gathered reading this group, there are a couple of relevant issues. First, it appears that commercial versions of Ingres on other machines are better-supported (e.g., having gone to Version 6.0). Second, I assume that in a corporate environment in which the company has outright purchased a computer and perhaps dedicated it for Ingres' use, exorbitant charges for cpu time are not as relevant as they are for us in which we pay, in cash, for our usage. As long as your equipment is powerful enough not to be brought to its knees by Ingres and as long as Ingres does its job, presumably you are relatively satisfied. That hasn't been the case here. Steve Goldfield Industrial Liaison Program College of Engineering University of California at Berkeley