Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!psuvax1!psuvm.bitnet!cunyvm!ndsuvm1.bitnet!nu140487 From: NU140487@NDSUVM1.BITNET (Me) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: TWO Denise's?? Message-ID: <2273NU140487@NDSUVM1> Date: 19 May 89 02:36:30 GMT Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network, Fargo, ND Lines: 64 DISCLAIMER: Author bears full responsibility for contents of this article. Upon reading an article appearing in the FMAUG (Fargo-Moorhead Area User Group) newsletter... i'm just curious as to how MUCH we Amiga users are in the dark. The writer, who claims he had come across some material that had been recovered from Jay Miner's "trash can", says basically that in a normal Amiga setup, two of the Denise pins are listed as not connected. Yet they do serve a purpose. The original Amiga motherboard design had space for several extra sockets, of which were 'supposed' to be OS ROMS. But Jay's material shows that this is not the case, and that one of the sockets was to hold a second Denise chip. The Amiga, in it's "Dual-Denise" mode, was capable of many more graphics modes. First off, the DD mode would have doubled the horizontal resolution by "doubling the frequency of the dot clock and interleaving the output of each Denise." Apparently the only reason why it was never publically made known of was it would have required the use of a Multisync monitor (which were pretty expensive back then). In addition to doubling the horizontal resolution, a DD combo would also allow for EXtenden HAM and EX mode. EXtended HAM would allow for HAM to be used in hi-res mode (640X200 and 640X400)... and overscan as well. Also, instead of a mere 16 colors, 256 colors are available. In lower resolution modes (320X200 and 320X400) the maximum number of colors is kicked up to 16,777,216 (the article didn't say how many were available on screen at once). There is also a "Landscape mode", which allows for a maximum resolution of 1280X400 (plus overscan)... which for some reason is used when the monitor is placed on it's side. Other possiblilities were mentioned as well. Using the Denise chip in groups of four in a "piggy-back" configuration, much like Transputer processers are networked, another video configuration is attained. (The article failed to go into detail about this, but said that current video technology could not possibly accommodate these modes.) Now, i'm not sure how accurate these accounts are... it's just something that i've read like... 5 minutes ago. But knowing Jay Miner's ability to perform miracles with stuff like this, i serioulsly wouldn't doubt it. This also brings up the question of where Commodore is taking the Amiga. We all know that Commodore's >ahem<... uh... "marketing" has just about doomed the Amiga to a life of video game junkies ...etc etc... but what about it's developers? Now I know that these guys spend a >large< portion of their lives to give us a good and well designed machines... but apparently (upon looking at this article, and assuming it is valid) they were not debriefed as to what could be possible with a little creative configurations. I hope this is the case, 'cause if they knew about it's abilities... and just said F***-it... and went and doomed the newer machines (the A500 and the A2000) to an inability for these configs... then i will have lost all of the respect and admiration I hold for the developers who have taken the Amiga under their wings. Psst... say guys... I'd have no problem with going out and buying a multi-sync >hint<... heck... i'd have to anyway if i wanted to use the ECS... >nudge< ... geez, with 16,777,216 colors... i could make a heckuva neet-o outdoor painting >wink<... :-) Jason ... oh... and by the way... i've just found out today that i don't have an ExtraHalfbright chip in my A1000. :-( Could anyone tell me if it would be possible to get a hold of one... and how much? The dealers downtown told me to buy an A500 or A2000. then i told them... n | /|||| : : / (the juggler | | playing an accordian) Disclaimer: if i have offended you in any way... please E-mail me... i'm always looking for new pen-pals. :)