Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!ames!ncar!mailrus!cornell!rochester!udel!mmdf From: hugh%censor.uucp@mitvma.mit.edu (Hugh D. Gamble) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Apple System 7.0 [ and some 1.4 Message-ID: <16095@louie.udel.EDU> Date: 23 May 89 18:16:33 GMT Sender: mmdf@udel.EDU Lines: 103 ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- ... >> Well, in some cases this FACT is dead WRONG. *ALL* Mac's come with >> very high-quality displays, and very good mice/keyboards. I don't >> think the Amiga monitors and mice and keyboard are of equal quality. >I can't speak for A500 keyboards, but my cat, a game loving friend >and I have abused my A2000 keyboard worse than I've ever abused a >Mac keyboard and I expect it to last every bit as long as a Mac >keyboard. My girlfriend dumped (by accident) a screwdriver (of the vodka-orange type) on my A2000 keyboard. I discovered it 12 hours later, when when I picked it up, screwdriver poured out. The keyboard worked (workes) fine. I wouldn't want to do that on an SE keyboard. >> All this Mac-bashing is senseless. Clearly, Apple spends most of its >I get tired of "Mac bashing" Amiga zealots who don't know what they're >talking about or what a Mac can do. I also get tired of Macinfools >who are just as bad, and just picked a different machine to be blindly >defensive about. What's really useful is rational debate on the >relative merits & flaws of each machine. Both have lots of room for >improvement, and it's nice for people to know what machine can do >the things they want a computer for the best. I agree. There is much about the Mac I'd like to see on the Amiga. >> development money on OTHER "wins". The Mac is an interactive machine. >> Multitasking is nearly useless for interactive work (spreadsheet / word >> processing / digital darkroom / picture editing). I disagree. I am lost every time I try to use a computer that doesn't multitask. Admitedly, I use multitasking as program switching quite a bit, but it is much faster than any other switcher I've seen. >> Background tasking is nice for printing and downloading, which the >> macintosh supports, using its klugey (but workable) periodic tasking >> system. It is nice for compilation too, and some slow mac compilers >> support it. But lightspeedC compiles 1 module, binds 10-20 modules, & >> launches in ~ 5 seconds flat, so there's no time to fire up a game. >> I admit the mac needs a good background ray-tracer. There is so much I use multitasking for. Running a program, while de-arcing a second, while downloading a third. Editing source while compiling and running it. Seeing what the screen said after booting an application. I am so lost on another desktop. >> Apple spends more money on developing a clean user interface, on I feel, IMHO, that there could have been money better spent. >> having a FULL FUNCTION network, on developing Quickdraw & 32-bit I agree. There is money better spent. >> color, its picture description language, providing gobs of high-level >> toolbox support, and supporting the TEN macintoshes released to date >> (Lisa, 128K, 512K, 512KE, Plus, II, IIx, SE/030, SEx, IIcx). >Personally, I wouldn't count the Lisa as a mac. >What's a 512KE got the E for? I wouldn't count anything before the Plus. The E meant enhanced. Had the bigger ROMs. Could use double sided disks. Stuff like that. >For reasons I'll let you guess, Apple wouldn't name a product >"Mac SEx", what someone might unofficially call the SEx is >most likely a reference to the SE/30. Cute. Nobody ever accused Apple of having intelegent naming conventions anyways. >> I think the mac is a nearly perfect "Personal Computer" by the >If you're happy with it, then it is, for you. I agree. Dispite my dislike for it, it does have a lot to offer. >Personally, I'm big on freedom, but I can see both sides. Total agreement. >> Don Gillies, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Illinois >> 1304 W. Springfield, Urbana, Ill 61801 >> ARPA: gillies@cs.uiuc.edu UUCP: {uunet,harvard}!uiucdcs!gillies -- >Hugh D. Gamble (416) 581-4354 (wk), 267-6159 (hm) (Std. Disclaimers) >hugh@censor, kink!hugh@censor ># It may be true that no man is an island, ># but I make a darn good peninsula. /* F. Michael Theilig OHA101 at URIACC.Bitnet "There is no Dark Side of the Moon... in fact it is all dark." */