Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!utstat!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!sun!pepper!cmcmanis From: cmcmanis%pepper@Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: High-res Graphics Board for Amy (1024x1024x256 colors) Message-ID: <106547@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> Date: 24 May 89 19:43:58 GMT References: <648@corpane.UUCP> <3060@cps3xx.UUCP> <662@corpane.UUCP> Sender: news@sun.Eng.Sun.COM Reply-To: cmcmanis@sun.UUCP (Chuck McManis) Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View Lines: 35 From: John Schilling QA >Its very nice, but for the $8000 such a system would coest, its too >pricely right now... (but it is soooo sweeetttt!) In article <662@corpane.UUCP> sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) writes: >Now, I would love to see this board come to market, but it is unlikely unless >we can convince Commodore Marketing that the Amiga could make a very nice >workstation with this board. Can you see a 68030 Amiga, with this board, about >8 megs of memory and Ethernet? It would blow away Macs, IBM, Apollo, Vaxen, >and Sun's! ^^^ HP :-) Clearly you haven't seen a SPARCStation-1 with a GX board yet. Don't worry you will I'm sure. Nothing personal but the small workstation market is heating up with a vengence. And you want Commodore in there? The same company that has a tough time competing with Atari? As a stockholder of CBM I would be very dissapointed if they tried this. With their commitment to R&D what it is, they couldn't hope to compete with the likes of any computer company that puts real dollars into it. It is a testament to the quality of their engineers that they get done what they do, given their budget. If CBM Intl was serious about R&D they would be investing 11 - 17% of their income into R&D, not 2%. Any idea what you could do with 6X the budget? Real development. Look at their UNIX offering, no networking and not even X11 as the window system (even when it is free from MIT!) How is that going to compete with the Sun's, DEC, and HP's of the world? The A2500UX+Viking is almost as powerful as a Sun 3/50 (which is pretty much the bottom of Sun's line these days) and nearly twice as expensive and can't even talk ethernet out of the box. Is that competitive? How many Yugoes do you see on the street? Reality check time, --Chuck McManis uucp: {anywhere}!sun!cmcmanis BIX: cmcmanis ARPAnet: cmcmanis@sun.com These opinions are my own and no one elses, but you knew that didn't you. "A most excellent barbarian ... Genghis Kahn!"