Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!mailrus!uflorida!unf7!tlvx!sysop
From: sysop@tlvx.UUCP (SysOp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: Yet Another God Damm 1.4 Suggestion:
Summary: Vscreen anyone?
Keywords: 1.4, windows, refresh, wish
Message-ID: <205@tlvx.UUCP>
Date: 27 May 89 15:20:09 GMT
References: <2459@wpi.wpi.edu>
Organization: Temporal Vortex BBS of Jacksonville, Florida
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In article <2459@wpi.wpi.edu>, john@wpi.wpi.edu (John F Stoffel) writes:
> 
> 
> 	DEC has a really neat way of playing with windows on their
> workstations.  When you click and drag a window around on the screen,
> you can move the window so parts of it go off the edge of the screen.

Have you played with the hack that's called something like "vscreen"?  It makes
a workbench that's much larger than your screen size.  This would have the
effect on windows that you're looking for, since you can push windows to
areas off-screen.  It's been a while since I ran it, but I think it takes up
RAM for the whole screen.  I was surprised to see it run tho; it scrolls fast
too.

Basically, Vscreen is like having a huge workbench, with the monitor as a
window into it.

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> 1) Does the window take up RAM when it is off the screen.  i.e. does
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I guess taking up RAM would make things easier.  Programs will still want
to write/draw to their display, whether or not the window is on the screen.
> 
> 2) How is refresh handled?  If I drag a window off to the side, go do
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> (only the border is really needed) as it becomes more visible.
> 
> 3) Which directions can you move a window off the screen?  All four?
> Or just left, right, down?  Can the mouse move off the screen too?

Moving the mouse to the edge of screen causes everything to scroll, so you
can see more workbench off in that direction, in Vscreen.

> 
> 4) What do other people think?

Well, I really don't know about the technical problems that need to be
addressed.  I seem to recall the author of Vscreen saying that he included the
source in the hopes that it might get thrown into a future OS.  As it is,
Vscreen will likely break after significant OS or machine changes.
> 
> 
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