Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!obsolete.UUCP!nazgul From: nazgul@obsolete.UUCP (Kee Hinckley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: Piracy...$2/shaft Message-ID: <8905251340.AA16546@obsolete.UUCP> Date: 25 May 89 13:40:26 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 58 Network Comment: to #948 by pnet01!crash!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!obsolete!nazgul I think that a clarification is in order. When the infamous $2.00 product was mentioned, I am pretty sure that the author did not simply refer to the production costs, but to the overall value of the program itself. Let's face Quite. I can't say I would consider a $2.00 program worth stealing either. I would like to ask the fervent defenders of law and order (said with a smile), what do they propose for the various situations outlined by various international and domestic members of this newsgroup. Specifically, please That's a _real_ problem. Again, I don't think the answer is pirating. The problem here is two fold. First, if you thought it was expensive to sell software domesticly, it's even worse to try and export it. You might think that places like Programs Plus and the like might do it, but a lot of the programs which *are* available outside of the US are not the same version as those internal. Some of the programs you buy are explicitly not for resale outside of the US and Canada because there is a different distributor in Europe handling the sale. I think there are probably two things that can be done in this case, one short term, one long term. The short term case is to write a letter to the software publisher in question, explaining the problem and requesting a copy of the software (perhaps enclosing a money order or BarclayCard number or some such, or just asking what the price would be). The question then becomes whether the publisher can legally export it without going through all kinds of rigamarole - or whether they'll just ignore that and ship it off (I know I would). The second one is to lobby your government to stop putting restrictions on, or better yet, to make it easier to get, imported software. At least in Europe I suspect that that the Common Market will make this whole situation much easier, since as a publisher I only have to deal with one set of import rules, and I can deal with one redistributor, instead of one per country. No law or moral is every cut and dry. The problem with rules is that to be properly applied someone has to make exceptions sometimes, the problem with that is *who* gets to decide on the exceptions. I really didn't intend to come across as a law and order type. I have very mixed feelings on this subject and didn't really want to get involved in the discussion at all! On the one hand I have strong feelings towards the philosophy that "if you don't need it, and thus wouldn't have bought it if that were the only option, it's okay to steal it". On the other hand I make my living in the software business and have no desire to see things I write walking off by themselves. -kee Home: obsolete!nazgul@bloom-beacon.mit.edu Work: nazgul@apollo.com BBS: obsolete!pro-angmar!nazgul@bloom-beacon.mit.edu or nazgul@pro-angmar.cts.com (somewhat slower though) 617/641-3722 (300/1200/2400) -------