Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!heath
From: heath@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Todd Heatherton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: Folders from Hell -  Part II
Message-ID: <1989May25.094147.5884@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca>
Date: 25 May 89 13:41:47 GMT
Organization: University of Toronto Computing Services
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Two weeks ago I posted a request for help in dealing with some folders
which refused to die.  I had some good advice like rebuilding the 
desktop or using disk repair (and from good people like Stephan Somogyi
at McUserLabs and Clark Anderson at apple.com).  Unfortunately, *NOTHING
WORKED*!!!  In fact, it gets weirder.  

Summary of Problem - Five folders which will not disappear off an FX-60.
The five folders are empty except one which had an invisible file.  All
folders report being inited and changing that does not allow them to
be killed.  

1.  Using MacTools I made a file which was in one the folders appear on
    the desktop.  You can throw the file in the trash and empty the
    trash.  The folder then says it has nothing in it and the trash
    says that it has nothing in it.  The next time you open the folder,
    the file will have reappered!  

2.  There have been a mix of error messages.  When you try to throw out
    the folders via DeskTop 1.4, you get the message that the folder
    couldn't be thrown out (unknown error).  At other times it reports
    error -127.  (Once we got a -51 error message).

3.  Programs like SUM are unable to verify the volume (an FX-60).

4.  Disk Repair will not run on the volume - reports unable to verify.


Does anyone have any other things to try?  Should we just have her
reinitialize her hard disk.  She is starting to have weird system crashes
and is worried that existing files and programs will get messed up (she
does have the whole thing backed up on tape).
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Todd Heatherton     Department of Psychology     University of Toronto

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